HI HO HIPPOCAMPS..AWAY!

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  1. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Here's another pair of CT Peep influenced acquisitions.:) These measure 19 & 17 mm weighing in at 6.11 & 5.15 gm. respectively.

    POST YOUR COINS & COMMENTS PEEPS!:) hippocamps   herinnia estucilla anton 001.JPG hippocamps   herinnia estucilla anton 002.JPG Greek Syracuse Sicily bronzes ca. 409 BC Helmeted Athena obverse Hippocamp with devices reverse.
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I really like the brown Hippocamp ominus1, and your's has nice surfaces randygeki. Mine is a variety with dolphins. 357.jpeg
     
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  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    As often is the case with ancients, there are several variations that some of us will feel the urge to have while others won't care.
    I am fond of the dolphin and ΣΥΡΑ options and would not mind one with a snake or wreath on the helmet (these wear away easily).
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126623
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=120682
    Note some have a bridle on the hippocamp. Some have waves under the hippocamp but many that should lost them to small flans.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=15438
    More of us will want one with great detail and smooth surfaces or pretty patina. It can be hard to collect just one.

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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    All very nice! I -- no surprise -- have no examples of these coins from Syracuse. But that doesn't mean I don't have any hippocampi! They were featured on coins of Gallienus's zoo series:

    Gallienus NEPTVNO CONS AVG Antoninianus.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.66 g, 21.4 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, AD 267-268.
    Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head, right.
    Rev: NEPTVNO CONS AVG, hippocamp swimming right; N in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 245K; Göbl 743b; Cohen 667; RCV 10292; Hunter 121; Cunetio 1393.
     
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Roman Collector's Gallienus is a good example of the then fashionable letter forms where N was shown as III.
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice chunks of hippocampi you have there, OmNomNom :)

    You know I'm going to have to roll out my hippocamp parade again :D...

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, Moneyer Q. Crepereius M.f. Rocus. 69 BCE. AR serrate denarius.

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    SICILY, Syracuse. Dionysius I. 400-335 BCE. Athena/hippocamp. A pristine hippocamp

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    PHOENICIA, Byblos. Uzibaal. 350-335 BCE. AR dishekel

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    PHOENICIA, Berytos. 1st century BCE. Æ19.5, 5.9 gm. Hippocamp quadriga!

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    Sicily, Syracuse. AE 13, c. 425 BCE. Arethusa(?)/hippocamp & octopus


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    THESSALY, Larissa Kremaste. AE trichakon; Achilles/Thetis seated on hippocamp. Ex BCD.
     
  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I only have my tiny hippocamp to offer:-

    L Papius Denarius Serratus

    Obv:– Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin tied under chin. Behind head, Dolphin wrapped around anchor.
    Rev:– Gryphon running right; in ex., L. PAPI.; in field, Hippocamp
    Minted in Rome from . B.C. 79.
    Reference(s) – RSC Papia 1. RRC 384/1. RCTV 311.
    Symbol variety – RRC -. Babelon -. BMCRR -.

    A previously unknown symbol pair and the only known example

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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..omnomnom...ahaha...i like it!.. ah, i see influence!:)
     
  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that is a very educating piece of info there Doug..
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Hippos:

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    Tyre 1/16 shekel 10mm 0.47g hippocamp l over waves - owl with crook flail Sear Greek 5916.BMC Tyre 43 SNG Danish 302

    Sicily Syracuse ca 410 BC AE 19 Athena Wreath Hippocamp.jpg
    Sicily Syracuse ca 410 BC AE 19 Athena Wreath Hippocamp
     
  15. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    O very nice friend!:)..i'm like an owl/crab combo..
     
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  16. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    The seahorse or hippocamp is an unusual type on Greek coins. We see it on bronzes in Sicily and on Phoenician coins. We also see it on coins of Taras in Italy.

    Here is a rare fraction that is none of these. In fact, it is unpublished.
    hippocamp.jpg
    Unknown Asia Minor mint. 1.0g 10.5mm.
    Obv: Winged hippocamp, forelegs raised, facing right.
    Rev: smiling gorgoneion, tongue protruding, ears as dots, within circle of dots within incuse circle.
    cf. Helios Numismatik, auction 3, April 2009, lot 59 "Lycia"

    A Helios cataloger wrote that his or her attribution to Lycia is not guaranteed, but that is this type is related to the coins of the the Lycian Uwug. However, "Uwug" has since been called a Carian king, and is name is now spelled Orou, and his coins are now said to come from an uncertain Carian mint "G".

    I’m tempted to put this issue with Arados, a Phoenician city known to have used gorgoneions and hippocamps (never in the same period), or to follow the Nomos catalogers and place the issue in Lycia/Caria.

    Any thoughts?
     
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  17. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I have a couple. The first one has a poor reverse and a counter stamp on the obv.
    greek countermark 002.JPG greek countermark 007.JPG
    the second one has BD on the reverse.... uggggh.
    Athena Corinthian helmet Hippocamp tintin.jpg Athena Corinthian helmet Hippocamp rev tintin.jpg

    I am posting today because I saw a hippocamp steelyard scale @TIF needs. It is in a current auction => shame on me. But it was unsold in a recent auction by the same company. I am guessing that there are few takers at $4500.
    hippocamp steelyard scale timeline Nov 2018.jpg
    should we start a go-fund-me account for her?
     
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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That is definitely what it would take! I'm still reeling financially from the two hurricanes of 2017. Repairs probably won't be finished until sometime next year... perhaps late next year :(.
     
  19. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    I wish you luck getting your home back in shape TIF.

    Here is a hippo
    GallienusHippocamp339O1_edited-2.jpg GallienusHippocamp339R2_edited-2.jpg camp:)
     
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