I buy all the old Chinese coins I find but haven't put them in a collection yet. Someday I'll sit down and figure out how to collect them. My favorite Chinese are the nice examples of coins from the '50's to the '80's. Many of these are almost impossible to find in this country. Are the old circulating coins difficult to find in China? Can they be found still shiny? Are any expensive? It's good to see you here. Welcome.
Yes, I do though I'm not a big-time darksider. I just wish more of the coins coming out of China were real Chinese coins and not fake U.S. silver dollars.
Hi, welcome to Coin Talk ! I have a couple Chinese coins in what I call my "world" collection: a 2004 silver panda and a 1997 unicorn (with dragon on the flip side -- I have no idea which is the obverse and which is the reverse. I guess I'll have to flip a coin to make that determination "heads" or "tails" ). They are both beautiful coins. I am particularly impressed with the way the panda is textured to give the illusion of different colors. Glad you're here !
Yep. Chi'en Lung (1735-95) cash coins, one each from the board of revenue and board of public works mints.
ccgum that's great. Can you read Chinese? Or are you an advanced collector of these cash coins? Can you give us a crash course on how to tell the difference between Chinese cash and similar coins from other countries? I seem to recall someone telling me that the Vietnamese pieces were thinner. That's about all the knowledge I have regarding these. Nick
My passion in Chinese coins was for the cash. I bought quite a few from Frank Robinson. Robinson's book Confessions of a Numismatic Fanatic describes his own interest in them. From "knife" and "pants" money through the Warring States and Sung Dynasties to the 1800s, I had a pretty good run going and I got pretty good at reading the ideograms. We always say, "Read the book before you buy the coin." However, one day, at a coin store, waiting for the owner, I was playing with the coins in the "Four for a Dollar" junk box and I happened to see some of the 10-cash and 20-cash large copper coins from the early 1900s. The big dragons were fascinating. I owned "the book" The Standard Catalog of World Coins, but I had never seen these. I bought them and then worked on widening the collection. I had a lot of fun attributing the varieties and feeling comfortable with my lucky finds. I never felt much for the silver dollars, Junk Dollars, the Automobile, generals, and such. Modern Chinese issues leave me cold. The paper money is nice, as such things go, I suppose.
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I learned a great deal of chinese in college, however there are so many characters it would seem a person would have to study many years in order to read it well. It is my understanding that a person must be able to recognize approximately 10,000 characters to read a newspaper... And that was after they developed a modernized version of the ancient draft. Very complicated stuff!
Well, fortunately, for modern Chinese coins, you only need to learn about 100 characters at the most, starting with the numbers. Even with Cash coins, there is a limited number of characters to deal with and you learn them one at a time. There are a lot of books on Chinese numismatics. These three helped me. The citations from the American Numismatic Society library catalog at www.amnumsoc.org Main Author: Jen, David. Title: Chinese cash : identification and price guide / David Jen. Publication Info: Iola, Wisc. : Krause Publications, c2000. Extent: xi, 341 p. : ill. ; 28 cm. Subject Info: Cash coins.Cash coins. Price guidesChina Price guides Year: 2000 NL125,FAR EAST, 1991} 0382 FISHER, GEORGE A. JR. Fisher's Ding. (Littleton, Colorado, The Author 1990). 252 pp. illus. <<< An annotated reprint of Ding Fubao's 1940 Lidai Gu Qian Tu Shuo, with catalog numbers and values added to the reprint pages, and many additional aids for Western collectors. The work includes a complex index to all coin inscriptions; Wade-Giles to Pinyin conversion table; illustrations of the fakes from Ding's 1938 edition (omitted from the 1940 edition); Chinese dynastic tables; a priced Schjoth-Ding concordance; a map of the locations of the Qin Dynasty mints; and tables of Manchu letters and mintmarks. (Joseph E. Boling) Main Author: Kann, Eduard. Title: Illustrated catalog of Chinese coins (gold, silver, nickel and aluminum). Publication Info: New York ; [Los Angeles] : Mint Productions, Inc., 1966, c1954. Extent: 476 p. : [inc. 224 pls.] ; 24 cm. Subject Info: China. Year: 1966 (I took Japanese. Many of the kanji characters are exactly the same but with other pronunciations. That is the nice thing about ideograms: you can pronounce them any way you want -- call it "Ma" or call it "Horse." Call me: Ma-ro-ta (Horse Road Stranger)
First: Answer to the thread: "No" Second: Isn't this self promotion AGAIN from this person? They again post a pic with their web-site on it? Third: Any coins coming out of the Far-East is probably more than likely fake. Look what is happening with everything from US Trade Dollars to Draped Bust coins...fake, fake, fake! The chance of my hard earned money departing overseas for a coin that may have been reproduced with 50 cents per day labor is as likely as a snowball's chance in hell!
Good eye Good Eye Ed I was busy looking at the coin not the web site- went to the site- looks like a store. Welcome China Coin -it looks like you are a dealer(have a store) is this correct?
Moderator's comment. The site is apparently in Chinese, and it can't be determined from the pictures whether it is a selling site or a collection display site. The web address is just a marking on the photo. This member's postings will be monitored, but allowed to remain at present.