Henry III variety

I'm in need of opinions to attribute the correct variety for this class 5 Henry III long-cross penny. I believe the vendor I purchased it from had it miss-classified. This example has a pretty strong strike so it should be easy, but the examples I've been researching are not quite as clear for me to attribute with confidence. Thanks

 

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What about this:

http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=476940&AucID=353&Lot=3227

I don't know exactly what to look at to figure these out but that looks like it to me. :kewl:

Ribbit

 

Like I said, I have no clue what to look for on these. I was just trying to help. Odds are astronomically in your favor that you are right and I am wrong.

Ribbit

 

It is an outstanding example. Great shape.

 

look we finally found a coin from GD's time period :thumb:

 

I don't mind company in the Wrong Box.

Ribbit

Ps: Do you know how to play Pinocle? Or how about Chess? However, I must warn you that Spock is a frequent visitor so I hope you don't mind playing Old Maid? :rolling:

 

Thanks for the kind words on the coin's appearance. This one came from the Brussells Hoard and is truely the best Henry III Long Cross I own. You wouldn't believe the cabinent toning on this piece..unfortunately it didn't come through on the photo.
I'm pretty sure its not a Ve or Vi
Some key diaognostics I can figure are:
1) oval eyes (therefore ruling out varieties a and b)
2) single band crown, (therefore ruling out varieties e and f)

I'm stuck between c and g, but I'm not sure how low the central fleur needs to be to designate the g variety. I'm waiting on Christopher's Wren's Long Cross Coianage book which hopefully will help (SPINKS photos are too small for my eyes).

 

what did i do now? didnt you collect coins from that era? so what if they were gold instead of silver?

 

Hey Doug? Now he's saying you collected coins from this era as pocket change. He thinks he's crafty in his wording but I see what he said. :kewl:

Bring on the Dragon! :thumb:

Ribbit

Ps: Tell us what you find out Jimmy, once the book arrives.

 

stainless you forgot to make toad soup again !!!!!

 

promises promises

 

The seller had it as a g, but also had several other coins attributed as g which clearly were not. I bought it thinking it was a c, and hoping having the coin in hand would help....it didn't. Now I'm hoping to discover additional diagnostics to attribute correctly...so far that center fleur really bothers me, as it seems higher than the g examples I've come accross. Either way, g or c, its one nice penny that has given me a run.

 

Thanks for the confirmation!! Excellent deduction. I'm hoping Wren's Long Cross book will cover what you found; otherwise, I'll need to get North's as well...Oh well, you can never have enough resource materials.