Just picked this up for my wife today dont really know anything about it besides what is on the 2x2 ..... My wife loves the Henry the 8th history and wanted a coin from that dynasty.... Is it in good condition for the age and what do you think the value is?
Nice coin, and from what I know one of the scarcer bust types. Seems to be in nice condition for the issue, about Fine to very fine (these come usually weakly struck), but I can see some nice detail on yours. If the edge is not damaged (hard to see from the photo), my 2007 Spink catalogue says Ls 75 in Fine - 300 in VF.
Posthumous coinage was struck during the reign of Edward VI but bear the portrait of Henry VIII Book guide price is around £70 ($110)
Why not slab it I thought that was a good thing.... Thank you all for The help I bought it from a coin shop near me they said they thought it was in a strong vf condition but I wanted to make sure with you all here I paid $250 for it. Eduard what did u mean by they scacer bust types did they make multiple designs throughoutthe minting of this coin? And if u had an estimate on how many of this bust was made? Is their a spacific name for that obverse design? Sorry for all the questions but I'm really interested,and only know about u.s. coinage Thank you all again for all the help
no wonder you think slabs are good. non-usa coin collectors don't have the same opinions about slabs as usa coin collectors. to answer your other question, i believe 6 different bust styles were used (i could be wrong on the number) on henry viii posthumous coins.
Opinion: The coin is cheap at the price if the edge is natural and not modern damage. If I saw the coin in a slab I would not risk the purchase since I could not examine the edge and would not trust the opinion of some unknown slabber. It is the sort of thing that might benefit from being accompanied by a signed letter of opinion from an expert not only commenting on the coin being genuine but the status of the edge irregularity but that would still allow the buyer to decide what is going on there that could make a couple hundred dollars difference in price.
Nice coin! It is bust 6 definitely with no mint mark, SPINK2408 or NORTH1875. There are 6 types of bust. 1-3 were used in Henry VIII third coinage, 4 was used by both kings and 5-6 were used in Edward VI coins (but still in the name of Henry VIII, also known as Posthumous coinage). The guide price in 2012 SPINK is £95 for F and £425 for VF. I think the price you paid is a right one. The coin has slight edge damage but looks like natural flan defect to me. The bust is above average level and the legends are quite clear. It is a good coin. I like the history of Tudor Dynasty since I saw the Tudors the TV play. So one part of my collections is their coins. I think you can find a kind of real Henry VIII groat for your wife. Maybe the Wolsey groat is the best choice. Cardinal Wolsey was so important a person in the Tudor history. He was not granted the right of producing groat but he did. It was one of his crimes when he was charged in his late life. These Wolsey groat have T W biside the Shield and a Cardinal hat below the shield on the reverse. A coin is not just a piece of silver or gold but a part of history itself!
IMHO, we don't need to slab these hammered coins. They are not like modern proof coins which should avoid touching. Hammered coins will get rich dark toned with time goes by. Nicely toned hammered coins are much more welcomed by serious collectors.
