Help with what these coins are an what they are worth

I posted this in another area but got know response so I'm trying here. Could someone tell me more about these coins an what they are worth. Any help would be great. Thanks Jason

 

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The second one is from Taiwan and it's super common. Not really worth anything. I don't think the first one is a coin, but it's hard to tell.

 

Can you take a clearer picture of the first coin? Weight and measurement might help as well.

 

I don't have these coins someone was wanting to sale me them. But I did not know anything about them so I did not buy. The silver one I was told 1912 value at $60. Could someone tell me the year of the silver looking one I do not know how to read it? Also a anything else they know about it. How would I go about looking up foreign coins? The copper looking coin I think is fake if it is real it is very old it looks to be hand struck. One side as what looks like a palm tree on it the other to me looks like a pine cone or a pineapple. The coin is about the size of a dime but is 3 to 4 times as thick weighs weighs about like 3 to 5 dimes. Hope that helps that's about all I can add. Anymore help would be great

 

I think the first coin is a modern replica/fantasy piece of Judaean Bar Kochba bronze[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]. [/FONT]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-831

 

That's the coin. I have not been to the site yet to try an find out if it is fake or not, I'm sure it is. Thanks for that info!

 

Not a problem. I would also add that I could be wrong about it being fake, but I don't think so.

 

What part of the world is it from so I can try an look it up to see if it is fake or not

 

Judaea (modern Israel, or in the same general area).

 

Thanks great info

 

The Taiwanese yuan is dated Republic Year 62 (1973) and is slightly less common than dirt.

 

The Taiwan coin is also not silver. Don't buy those coins.