Help with unknown coins

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by gigar66, May 4, 2008.

  1. gigar66

    gigar66 Junior Member

    I would appreciate if anyone could help me identify these coins, origin and approx. value. The second coin I thought is a Venetian Ducato, is this correct? I have no idea about the first one.

    Thanks for your help.
     

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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    :kewl:All I can say is ,on the first coin ,the writing looks Arabic. The bottom coin looks Bysintine , rzage
     
  4. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    The first coin is a bronze 5 centimes piece from Tunisia, struck under the rule of Ali Bey, the date on the coin is AH 1309, or about 1891 AD. Minted in Paris.
     
  5. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    The second looks Venetian, not Byzantine. And a bit fake.
     
  6. gigar66

    gigar66 Junior Member

    Thank you all. The second one, I'm quite sure is not a present day fake as my grandfather found it on his farm on the adriatic coast as the plow was working the land. If it is a fake, it is probably a fake of the Venetian time.
     
  7. DoniKay

    DoniKay New Member

    Hi, I have a project for my Latin class with a Licinius I coin, and i was wondering if anyone could explain to me what a couple of things mean on the coin.

    A. obverse side: IMP LINIVS AVG. What exactly does AVG stand for? Is this the abreviation for Aug. the month the coin was made in?
    B. reverse side: IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG. Again i'm unsure what the AVGG exactly is meant to stand for.
    C. reverse side: what does the SMK in ex mean? Is this the person who made the coin?
    D. reverse side: The B on the right side of Jupitor, what does that stand for? Is this the edition? i've noticed that there are many different kinds of Licinius I roman coins out there, so are each one mark by a different letter to show the edition of the maker and style of the specific coin? any help would be much appreciated. thanks so much.
     
  8. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    I've never seen that design on a silver coin-it was used on the gold issues throughout the 14th to 18th centuries.
     
  9. gigar66

    gigar66 Junior Member

    I read that fakes of the period were not made entirely of gold, but rather plated with gold.
     
  10. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Yeah...i can't see any traces of gilt on that coin though.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm reasonably certain that the second coin is a fake. According to the legends it was issued by Marcantonio Giustinian - Doge of Venice 1684-1688, but all of those ducats were gold and this one is definitely not. There are design discrepancies as well. It is most likely a modern fake. You need to understand though, a modern fake could be 200 years old, though I suspect this one is not.

    That said, there was a silver ducat issued in the mid 1500's, but it had an entirely different design. You read about it here - Click Here
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Avg is probably for Augustus wich roughly translates to king,so AVG Linivis would meen King Linivis rzage
     
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