Help with Token? Dug Today in SC

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  1. scguy

    scguy Active Member

    If this isn’t allowed let me know, I didn’t know where to place it.

    It says “CAMP CREEK MILL CO.” “J.W. REAVES, PROP.” what looks like “WHIG TENN.” and on the back says “GOOD FOR 100 LBS BRAN.” I can’t make out all of the edge, but what I can read I believe says “VOID IF LOSS OF MILL BY FIRE OR WATER.”

    Is this some sort of early insurance token for mills? Maybe they were a supplier and the buyers were given discounts for buying tokens, predicting events like this would happen? 6E560A56-03B7-46C0-8198-A230F9883239.jpeg 65E94E41-4483-4916-84F7-F9F9982FC3FC.jpeg
     
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  3. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Cool piece, other than "Camp Creek" is a real stream in Tennessee, I can't find anything about it. Maybe @ZoidMeister will chime in.
     
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  4. Chris B

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  5. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    I checked a map. "WHIG" could be an abbreviation for Whitesburg, which is VERY close to Camp Creek. It's near Greeneville. East of Knoxville.
     
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  6. LakeEffect

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    Check out this screen grab from Google Maps. Crossing Camp Creek is "Reaves Mill Road". I'll bet a dollar it's the same Mill and Reaves referenced on your token. :happy:
    ReavesMill.png .
     
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  7. scguy

    scguy Active Member

    Thank you for the help!! How did it wind up in Newberry County, SC on a creek bank is my question? It was next to old mill land, but I wouldn’t think it would say Tennessee?
     
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  8. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    We'll never know, LOL.:) Nice find.
     
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  9. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Camp Creek is also a parkway near the Atlanta area airport.

    Otherwise I have nothing.

    Z
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Neat find Sc.
     
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  11. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Just a theory - Reaves moved his mill to SC or started a new one. My 17th/early 18th century ancestors in PA established a mill in one place, then moved to another place and started another mill there, on and on. A quick search found this - coincidence? You might find that the Reaves "mill operative" in 1915 Newberry is directly related to the J.W. Reaves mill in TN. Fun to speculate.

    http://genealogytrails.com/scar/newberry/observer/1878-1905Ra.htm
    "Reaves, Lola Rebia female, white, delivered by John B. Setzler M. D., on 8/23/1915. Parents are Malcolm Reaves, mill operative, born in Newberry Co. SC, and Lola Rivers Reeves, born in Lexington Co. SC, living in Newberry City. Return of Births in the City of Newberry SC. 8/19/1885 to 12/15/1918 kept in the Newberry Co. Library."
     
  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    That list has a W.H. Reaves, owner of Farmer's Ideal Roller Mill in Pate's Hill, TN. More evidence of a family connection with these mills.

    I wonder if WHIG TENN is a reference to the Tennessee Whigs, and not a town name.
     
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  13. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    All good theories posted above. If there is a historical society in the area, they may have more info, if you're inclined to inquire.
     
  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    VERY cool find! Looks late 19th century.
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't doubt the Whig theory, But just to find out I would have to make a trip to the adjoining roads and creek area to find out if I could find another. Are you too far for the road trip?. If I was in Tenn. I would meet you there.
     
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  16. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Heck, I am thirty miles away. I’ll put some fresh batteries in my Garrett and we can have us a party!
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think someone should check. I wish I was close enough.
     
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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ditto. I was hunting a Victorian house’s front yard in Asheville, NC, once, and dug three Montezuma Lumber Company tokens (two 5c and one 50c), from Montezuma, NC, likely from the same general era as the token above.

    I don’t know how rare they are, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they are. I’m sure they aren’t common. (I’ve never seen any others.) It was interesting to find three in such a relatively small area, though they were widely spaced enough not to have been from the same pocket spill. Someone who lived in that old house must have had a connection to the company. One could have been random. Three was not a coincidence.

    Point being, our author needs to search that site carefully! It would be very cool if there were more. Even if not, it’s a great find.
     
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  19. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Pretty cool token being tied to the original location. So if the mill isn't there anymore, was it lost by fire or water? If by water, did this warning precede its demise?

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  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Good thought @messydesk maybe search down stream.
     
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  21. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I once metal detected a elongated cent that was made at an aquarium in Alaska.. I dug it in NYC.
    It just travels until someone loses it.
     
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