Help with this cool error please

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Derick, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    How would one describe this error. I have both specimens involved. It looks like a mated pair of sort.

    Together
    KM 166 rev MP-T.jpg KM 166 obv MP-T.jpg

    Separate
    KM 166 MP1.jpg KM 166 MP2 rev.jpg

    Right coin obv
    KM 166 MP2 obv.jpg
     
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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    hate to say it but looks more like post mint damage to me as in someone put 2 coins in a vise to get that effect.
     
  4. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Thank YOU for that great answer.
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It was definitely made like that. I would call it a mated pair.
     
  6. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    I believe so. I have many error coins, but have never seen this. How common type of error is it?
     
  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I am not an error expert, but it does look like a mated pair. Very cool piece!
     
  8. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I have seen quite a few mated pairs over the years. I can't recall seeing any from Chile tho... But that doesn't mean anything. Mated pairs are usually pretty valueable. Usually in the several hundred dollar range on US coins. I would recommend contacting Fred Weinberg as he will most likely have all the answers you need about rarity and value.
     
  9. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I like what Matt says
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks like a legitimate error to me. I can't recall if it was here or on another forum that someone posted a Lincoln cent where 13 or 15 planchets had been struck into one another.

    Chris
     
  11. tgaw

    tgaw Member

    very interresting
     
  12. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

  13. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Not PMD. It's very nice!
     
  14. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    thanx for the comments guys. I have a question. I am planning my first trip to the US via New York (June-July) next year and would like to visit some great coin related shows and shops. Something happening over this time?
     
  15. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    I don't think so. Look at the first picture; that's a full strike off-center and with another planchet underneath it. You couldn't get that kind of effect with a vise, there wouldn't be nearly enough pressure to do that.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I think happened:

    Coin one gets a normal strike, is ejected from the chamber, but not completely.

    New planchet enters the chamber, gets struck by the dies... but also by coin one, that hasn't been ejected fully, resulting in coin 2 getting struck both by the dies and coin 1, and coin 1 getting a second partially off-center strike by the dies.

    Results in something like this that is easier to show than describe lol... the reversed impression is a result of getting hit by the reverse of the other coin.

    In any case I don't think this is PMD and looks like a legitimate error. (The reverse impression can happen with a vice job, but the impression is way too deep here; it had to have been struck.)

    Value and rarity, I don't know. Depends on quality control at what I presume was the Santiago mint in 1933.

    Cool find though, especially when you have both coins that resulted from the error. Can tell you that the value of both of them together will be much higher than if you only had one, or the sum total of them separately.
     
  16. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

  17. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

  18. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Some others?

    20 centavos 193_ rev.jpg 20 centavos 193_ obv.jpg
    10 centavos 1932.jpg 10 centavos 1932 obv.jpg
     
  19. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Again I am not so good at errors, but the first one looks like a partial brockage, and the third picture looks like a double struck cent.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Very good, the first piece IS a partial Brockage, and the second piece is a double struck with second strike partially struck through a planchet. But when you have both coins that were struck together together so they fit together perfectly, you have a mated pair. Finding either one of the two coins makes for a nice error, but finding both pieces is VERY difficult so the pair is worth much more than the sum of the two errors separately.
     
  21. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Condor, that seems right. I added some crude drawings to show what I think happened based on what you guys said.

    Picture1.jpg

    Picture2.jpg
     
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