Help with Large Cent 'head type' ID.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by AOmonsta, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    I'm kinda new to Large Cents. I know the 8 and stars are small. Can anyone tell if it's the Matron Head or Head of 1836? Thanks.

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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's the head of 36.
     
  4. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    If you would post larger pics of the obverse and reverse, we might be able to attribute the variety (and therefore its rarity).
     
  5. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Yea I'll be able to get some more pics tomorrow. Seems like every year of these Large Cents had 3-4 versions. Will be an adventure to collect haha.
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    There are only three years that have only one variety, 1804, 06, and 09. There are only a few years that only have two varieties, 1799, 1811, 1813, 1814, 1821, and 1823. Every other year could have anywhere from 3 to 69 varieties.
     
  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Of course even those few are reduced if you count NC varieties like the 1799 NC-1.
     
  8. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Ditto
     
  9. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Got some new pics. I'm thinking this is the head of the '36.

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  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Yep - head of 1836, small 8 and stars. Looks like it could be an n-14, can really tell - the coronet line looks straight.
     
  11. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    What's n-14? Coding system or something?
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    It is the newcomb variety.
     
  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Most of the early American Coinage has recognizable die varieties. Redbook varieties are usually groups of coins with similar characteristics rather than a specific die variety unless there is something extraodinary about a particular variety.

    Sheldon (S) numbers are the most common variety identifier for early date Large Cents (1793-1814); Newcomb (N) picks up for Middle Date (1816-1839) and Late Dates (1840-1857). In Newcombs system, every year starts over so N-14 would be the 14th known variety of 1835.
     
  14. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I could believe Newcomb-14. As Mark mentioned, it's impossible to tell from these photos.

    Here's an interesting thought, AOmonsta... it's also possible it is Newcomb-19, which shared the same reverse die but a different obverse die. If it is N-19, it's a very rare die variety (r.6).

    It's worth getting better pictures; take it out of the 2x2 and shoot it raw.
     
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