Help with Julia Domna please?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Dafydd, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. Dafydd

    Dafydd Well-Known Member

    I'm hoping someone can help me with this coin please ? I know Doug Smit specialises in this area.
    I've hunted for the coin in Sear, Wildwinds,catalogs and Forum fakes but to no avail. I only have Volumes 1 and 2 of Mattingly so couldn't check there.
    I suspect it is a fantasy coin because I can't find it and my concern is that it is on the light side.
    The reverse is similar to RCV Sear 6825 Septimius Severus but with a Julia Domna obverse. It measures 17.4mm x 18.4mm and weighs 2.72 g. I've seen a fouree denarius with the same reverse although that one was 1.7g but it has given me food for thought.
    I'm not experienced enough to say if this is a fouree or not and it seems quite sharp, better than my photograph, I may retake it with a black or white background.
    I acquired this in a trade because I liked the reverse. The seller said he didn't know what it was and the trade value was too low to be concerned. My interest is not in investment or value, I collect under the delusion that one day I will have time to properly research and catalog everything. Roll on retirement!
    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Fortunately I haven't bought a fake for a while now so I guess I'm overdue. JuliaDomnaLionsB.JPG JuliaDomnalionsA.JPG
     
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  3. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    The picture is a bit blurred but I see no outright signs of forgery. More likely a mule?
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The style is not right for the regular mint. I see possible signs of it being fourree at reverse left edge but there are unofficial ancient copies in silver from the period and many have worse style than this. I have not seen one like this for Julia.
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  5. Dafydd

    Dafydd Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reply. I'll try and take a better image tomorrow on a black background.
     
  6. Dafydd

    Dafydd Well-Known Member

    I've tried to take a better image with a black background as seen. I've been reading Doug's articles on photography and others and need more practise which is turning into another hobby I hadn't anticipated. A friend of mine has advised to try a reversed copy machine lens in my DSLR which he has lent me so I'll see where that takes me and I will use black card instead of cloth. These images were taken JDBB.JPG JDBA.JPG with a compact, one of my kids says my phone would be better than this.
    I have a hand held microscope so will take a look at the cracks on the flan to see if I can see any base metal underneath.
     
  7. shanxi

    shanxi Well-Known Member

    RIC 594 (Hybrid) would be a reference

    (There are indeed some copper spots, indicating a possible fouree. It's hard to say for sure.)


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    Last edited: Sep 28, 2019
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  8. Dafydd

    Dafydd Well-Known Member

    Many thanks Shanxi , much appreciated.
     
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