Help with identifying a Jr on a 1829 caped dime!

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  1. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    My wife got me my first caped bust for Christmas as well with 2 other coins I'll post in a post a little later! But I was wondering how I identify the jr variety on it I do know it's the small 10c. Any help is appreciated and I do know it's a low grade but she was extremely excited it had a mintage less than 800,00 what do you think it is graded received_5186890784746309.jpeg received_1126561681395125.jpeg
     
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  3. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Here is a graphic courtesy of USACoinbook.com
    My untrained eye says you've got the small 10¢ but I'm often wrong. Nice gift BTW ;)

    1829-small-vs-medium-vs-large-vs-extra-large-10c-capped-bust-dime.jpg
     
  4. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

  5. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    It does appear to be the small date.
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’m sure that’s the small date.
     
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  7. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Thank you guys! I was also wondering what the Jr variety would be on it? I noticed ngc and pcgs listed them but I have no clue how to go about identifying bust varieties. When I goggled it it took me nowhere
     
  8. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Sorry, I just re-read your post and realized you already identified the small 10¢. I don't know how to identify the JR variety. Others will know.
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Capped, not "Caped".

    Fun gift. It's hard not to like Capped Bust coins in any grade. That looks like an ANACS slab?
     
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  10. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the correction! And yes it's an anacs slab. I've never owned one but I've always been fascinated with the design of them and the history they could tell. And now that I got one I think I'm going to put the whole set together
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I'm kind of envious of your passion. 46 years in, I get a bit jaded, but I remember what that excitement of a fresh pursuit felt like. I do still get it once in a while, but seldom like I did in my first years of collecting.
     
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  12. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Looks to be JR-4.

    First, it is a small 10C. The small C's are JR-3,4,5,6,7, and 8. On 5 through 8 the scroll extends too far past the first stand of the M in AMERICA to be your coin narrowing it down to JR-3 or 4. On the obverse of JR-3 Star 3 points to the upper half of a dentil while on JR-4 (and it appears on yours) it points between 2 dentils.
     
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  13. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I was going to attribute your dime yesterday but I was too full of Christmas cheer to attempt it. Anyway, I agree that it's the JR-4, Small 10C die marriage consisting of Obverse 3, Reverse D. This is a R-2 rarity so one of the more common ones.

    Attached are the pickup points for the obverse and reverse dies.

    From the photos, I couldn't be sure of the following:
    - double denticle between Stars 3 and 4;
    - S8 recut
    - F recut to right.
    - the three pale gules in the eagle's shield are mushy even in high-grade examples much less well-circulated coins. But if you compare the width of the verticals you can see that the merged verticals are a little wider than the two pale gules varieties.

    I grade it as G-06.

    I attribute these dimes using the Early United States Dimes 1796-1837 by Davis, Logan, Loverjoy, McCloskey and Subjack, published 1984.

    I also use a little quickfinder guide that I take to shows called Bust Dime Variety Identification Guide by Zack, Scuderi and Sherrill, published 2015.

    Nice wife to buy you a sweet little bust dime. Keep both.

    1829 dime obv-one.jpeg 1829 dime rev-one.jpeg 1829 dime rev-two.jpeg
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’m not into JR varieties so I can’t help. I will say that Bust coinage is Addictive. It’s a lovely design and even with wear, the design still shows nicely. I’m partial to the Bust Half Dollars. I bought one about 7 years and I now own a lot more than that. Lol
     
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  15. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the attribution! I appreciate it. It sure dose seam like a heck of a process to identify them but I'm sure determined to learn.
     
  16. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Thank you! I tryed my best to get good pictures but the slab wasn't letting that happen. And thanks for the info on the books I will definitely be looking into getting those. And your right on the grade anacs gave it at a g6. But when I used photo grade to compare it I thought it was more of a vg but I'm not the experts.
     
  17. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    It sure is addictive I haven't really been able to sit it down I'm hooked on the design Im definitely gonna be putting something together with them
     
  18. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    I don't know anyone who collects bust half dollars. Must get lonely;)
     
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I just find them Irresistible :)
     
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