Help with grade 1907 Indian

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by eric6794, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    What would you grade this at? I'm thinking VF or better. It's brown with a hint of red. 19071.jpg 19072.jpg 19073.jpg 19074.jpg
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'd be a bit more conservative and give it a Fine grade.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Same here.
     
  6. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Nailed it.

    Not strong enough to be EF, but better than VF-20.

    The reverse looks good, but the obverse has a strange appearance. I'm wondering if it may actually be your photos - but they are making the coin appear to have been cleaned.
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It's a little too blue; white balance is off so conclusions about surface originality are guesses. You have to assume the background for both faces is the same, and the difference between the two tells the story. It's a good reason to shoot against a white background if you don't have good white balance adjustability - when the background is the right color, you have the coin's color right also.
     
  8. Derry

    Derry Member

  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    There used to be a fine IHC grading pdf available online from Rick Snow, but I'm not sure if it's still out there or not. Perhaps it is worth checking out.

    You mention "VF or better", but do notice how the hair flows into the ribbon. This is both how I was taught, and I believe was noted in the aforementioned pdf, as a quick and easy to distinguish between VF and EF although exceptions to the rule should he expected to some extent. This also may not follow, as a rule, what we see residing in plastic, but comes with the territory and setting one's own standards on the conservative side isn't such a bad thing.
     
  10. jackhd

    jackhd Active Member

    There's also some rim damage. Nice coin with lots of detail preserved. Even if the color balance was corrected, just looking at the texture of the surface looks, to me, as though it has been cleaned. I'm thinking "VF+ details, improperly cleaned." I think you can be proud of this addition to your collection, however it's not valuable enough (IMHO) to consider submitting it to TPG. Jack
     
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  11. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone I got this out of a bag of 20 IHC I paid a little too much for but with this I think it was worth the little extra I paid for mostly worn coins. Over all it equaled about $1.75 per coin and it had 2 1888's that I was crossing my fingers on :) It is replacing a worn 1907 in my folder now.
     
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