Hey everyone! I've had this Polish (Lithuanian?) silver coin sitting around for a while - I've tried to attribute it a couple times (didn't really spend a TON of time on it, because I had other coins to look up...and you go for the low-hanging fruit sometimes so you actually get stuff done) but have so far been unsuccessful. I'm wondering if someone here can help me out. Diameter: 29.5mm Weight: 6.5g Figure the ruler is Sigismund III based on the lettering on the portrait side, which if you find him in Numista (Grosz-Koronny - Pottalar Koronny - Talar Koronny) looks like late 1500's / early 1600's Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. On the reverse, it looks like the beginning of a date (16 on the left of the shield, maybe a 24 on the right?) but it's a bit worn on the right side, so I'm not confident. None of those three linked coins is a direct match for my coin, though...so I'm wondering what the heck I have here. Note: I've also looked through my Krause catalogs, and I wonder if the 1624 Ort (18 Groszy - 1/4 Thaler) is a match...although the manual doesn't give a weight or diameter, and states "varieties exist." Thanks!
I just purchased this in December I bet the seller could answer your question. He is a doctor quite nice items for sale. https://www.ebay.com/str/docoppsant...ins|folenttp:1&_trksid=p3542580.m47492.l74602
I am not an expert, but I believe you have both the ruler and date right. The date clearly is not 1614. It possibly could be 1634 except that Sigismund III died in 1632. So 1624 it is.
I think the position of the date, 1624 in your case, dictates whether it is a 1/4 or 1/2 Thaler. Also, there a number of fakes of these. I cannot find a single one with exactly the same perimeter lettering as yours
Just found this one with the same lettering and date position. 1/4 Thaler from 1623 https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3632&lot=98
It is a 1624 Ort, or 1/4 Thaler, as Wladyslawa#249, or https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1551169 These were struck in large quantities, mainly for military expenditure, and are common, although prices are rising (finally) as they are pleasing, chunky silver coins.
A buddy of mine just purchased one like it a few weeks ago in a higher grade. This one an over dated specimen too. I believe that he paid under $100
Ben I bet your specimen is also an over date comparing the other's posted im sure minting that many coins they used their dies until they broke.
Yeah, it’s a shame it’s so worn (always more fun to see the details like overdates) but still pretty cool to hold something from the 1600’s and wonder what it’s journey from then to now has been.
allnumis.com is showing it as KM#37, a 1 Ort 1623, Poland, Sigismund III (1587-1632) https://www.allnumis.com/coins-catalog/poland/sigismund-iii-1587-1632/1-ort-1623-34618
As stated above, its an ort. Here is my 1622 example along with a description: Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, Sigismund III Vasa, AR Ort (¼ Taler), 1622 AD, Bromberg mint. Obv: SIGIS • III • D • G • REX • POL • M • D • LI • RVS • PRV • M; bust of Sigismund III r., crowned, with ruff and in ornamented cuirass, holding sword and orb. Rev: SAM • LIV • NEC • N • SV • GOT • VAN : Q : HRI : R; crowned and quartered shield with eagles (Poland) and rider (Lithuania), central inescutcheon with Vasa withy; in fields, 16-22; mint sign: arrow and stars. 29mm, 6.83g. Ref: Kopicki 1278.
