Help with a coin I own; estimates?

Well, I found this coin on a floor in a store, and I think its really cool. (I am not yet a coin collector) It is a dime stamped twice, with the dime and the penny on both sides. If you guys could look at it, tell me what you think, and give a price estimate, that would be great. I also checked with a coin collector/trader/seller in Chicago, and he did verify that it is real.
I think I added the pictures as attachments.
Thanks for Helping!
Oh yeah, the coin is silver, it just appears kindof bronze because of the quality camera.

 

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Yeah, I don't think I have ever seen an 11-cent piece on a cent planchet. They start out as a dime and get run through the cent press next, not vice versa. (Cent planchet would not fit in the dime collar.)

 

I was fearing that, but who would spend that time to do that (And, the high priority coin collector in Chicago, that makes a living off of coins might be looking for a new job if he is truely wrong)

 

That's one wild coin ~ drunk mint worker error?

 

My guess exactly.

 

I got to disagree. I think its real. But I need diagnostics from someone like Mike.

What I see is a dime (1998 P) that then was struck again in a cent (1998) press. If it did occur this way, then
1) the CuNi surface of the clad dime would be work hardened.
2) the dime would be thin for a cent press so the cent would not be fully struck.
3) the parts to be struck would be the where the high points of the dime and the low points of the cent dies meet.

In the first pic, note how the dime's reverse leaves are flattened.
In the second pic, note where the best struck area of the lincoln memorial is the highest point of the dime and the lowest point of the lincoln die.
What bugs me most is how the edge elements don't try to make a run-for-the-border like they do with a broadstrike -- but, a broadstrike occurs on an annealed planchet and the planchet is the right thickness for the press to strike up good details.

I don't know. I gotta say real. But I would like diagnostics from an expert.

 

Reversed? What do youi mean reversed? I don't see anything reversed. The "God Trust" of In God We Trust is forward and raised not backwards and incused. Ditto "P" mintmark and "1998." On the dime's reverse, the "One Dime," "E Plurib" and "United States of America" is upside-down but otherwise normal orientation. I'm not seeing what your seeing, what do you mean?

 

Look again. They are not reversed.

Perhaps the coloring is off in the pics. I thought it looked like a copper plated zinc planchet at first but on second look it may actually be a dime struck first on a clad dime planchet and then struck by cent dies.

This thing may be legitimate.

 

Oh, on another note, I found this ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170180979128&indexURL=0#ebayphotohosting ) while Googling "eleven cent error coin." The dime is far more obliterated by the second (cent) strike and I doubt the seller will get that price for it, but it is certified as a real error coin. I used it for comparison purposes.

 

I have to agree with Doug here. A cent planchet simply won't fit into a dime collar on the stamping press.
Guy~

 

Huh? I see ONE CENT above Roosevelt's head, not ONE DIME. I postulated that it was the dime stuck first and became a cent-struck-on-dime error. Are we looking at the same pics? I'm not trying to bust your chops, really I'm not, but I'm seeing a different set of pictures than you describe. As to the statement about the cent planchet fitting into the dime collar, the OP said the color is bronze because of the camera settings - the coin itself is silver colored. Thus a dime.

 

Well, considering you can clearly see a dime-sized rim where it was "struck" into a larger planchet, I'd have to say the cent was the original coin. Not to mention the ONE is clearly raised onto Roosevelt's head, instead of incused like it would be had the cent been struck over the dime. Plus, if the planchet had been one of a dime, the full cent motto would not have struck and I'd say the die would have split the edges due to excessive metal flow.
Guy~

 

After looking at the Ebay auction images closer, I noticed the reeding on the edge is still clearly visible in the certified error. It appears there may be reeding above Lincolns head and straight outward from Roosevelt's chin on the OP's coin.

shorterguy0143: does you coin have a reeded edge?

 

the op clearly states the coin is silver and his camera made the coin appear bronze

 

I see the dimes rim on one side only, the other side has cent elements running off the flattened edge.

I don't get that. How would it be incused? If the cent die struck any object the field would be the low spot and the devices would be raised as a consequence. I submit that the cent die squashed Roosies head with the field of the cent die leaving only the ONE raised.

The motto (In God We Trust) is on the very edge of the coin - well past where is should be on a cent. The legend (Liberty) is weak with missing portions.

bear in mind, a normal cent is minted onto an annealed (softened) planchet and the planchet takes up a certain volume of space with a pre-determined thickness. The presses are set to strike at this distance. The dime is thinner and of a smaller diameter. Plus it has already been struck and thus work-hardened. The work hardening would make the metal harder and thus more likely to split. So I agree to a point.

 

Don't worry about the emotional/ personal aspects. I'm really only interested in the diagnostics. I don't mean to be a jerk about it or anything -- I look up to you because you know a lot more about coins than I do. really, its just about the diagnostics.

You say the dime is on top of the cent, and I take this to mean the dime was struck last. I don't see that. The most details I see are from the cent with most parts of the dime flattened. This would only happen (in my mind, anyway) if the cent was struck last.