Help: Regarding a coin of Marcian

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  1. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    I am considering of buying this:

    https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/savoca/browse?a=464&l=469409

    I have bronze of Arcadius (395-408) and the next bronze I have is Anastasius (491 to 518). So there is a "wide" space i want to fill.

    On reverse I can see the monogram for Marcian, and beneath I can see "CON" meaning minted in Constantinople.

    Can you tell me what RIC it is since I cannot read the letters in obverse?

    And can you tell me what the hammer-price tends to be for such a coin in that grade since I have no idea.

    The buyer fee is 18% if it matters.
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here is the coin:

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    Here is the listing in RIC:

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    It's monogram type 5 and the "lines of monogram curved, sometimes disjointed" (see footnote); so RIC 541.
     
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  4. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    RIC541 (5) ????

    I am more a byzantine than a roman collector in term of numismatic. So bear with me.

    EDIT: Ok, thanks.
     
  5. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    @Roman Collector

    "This reverse is sometimes found muled with obverse of Theodosius II"

    Does that mean that it could be Theodoius II ?

    Again, I am not a "roman" collector.

    EDIT: I think I can read a "MAR" on the obverse.
     
  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Not this coin. This one is of Marcian. You can read the obverse inscription, as you've noted.
     
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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That one is better than average. Many of them are barely identifiable. Here's my monogram of Marcian, for example:

    Marcian nummus 2.jpg
     
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  8. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much for your help.

    If any here has an idea what the auction-price tend to be then I would like to know it.
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Mine:

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    RI
    Marcian, AD 450-457
    AE4, 11mm, 1g, 6h; Constantinople mint, AD 450-457.
    Obv.: DN MARCIANVS PF AVG; Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: Monogram 2+ within wreath // CON
    Reference: RIV X Marcian 545, p. 282.
    Ex: @John Anthony
    From the Doug Smith Collection, #1753
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This one sold for $120 (not including buyer's commission, various fees and postage) at a CNG auction in 2012:

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  11. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Monogram coins are fickle. Sometimes they go for peanuts, other times for crazy money. I got mine in a lot (with other high quality coins) for $25 for the lot

    Marcian Monogram 5a.jpg

    Just a week ago I sold a lot of Marcians (and other late types) on ebay for about $10/coin, and they weren't much worse than the Savoca example.
     
  12. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    In the previous auction the hammer price was:
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