Help needed for identifying arabic?? coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Hermann Watzlawik, Sep 1, 2020.

  1. Hermann Watzlawik

    Hermann Watzlawik Well-Known Member

    Hello, I got this coin in a lot of late roman coins and can't identify it.
    Weight: 3.9 grams
    Diameter: 20.53 - 22.59 mm
    Thickness: 1.48 mm

    Is there anybody who knows the language and can help me???

    Thanks in advance and stay healthy.

    From Germany: Hermann
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  3. ernstk

    ernstk Active Member

    This is an Umayyad fals. early 8th century and looks genuine
     
  4. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    (Your photos are both upside down, the second photo is the obverse.)

    Your coin is indeed in Arabic, a Post-Reform type from the Umayyad Caliphate (or possibly the early Abbasid Caliphate, which continued similar designs). Unfortunately, the only text left readable is the Kalima (a standard Muslim prayer) in the middle of each side, which doesn't narrow it down. Information on mint and date, if any (some varieties have no mint or date given) is in the margins, and while it looks like there is some writing there, it's too badly worn for me to make anything of it. Hope this helps.
     
  5. Hermann Watzlawik

    Hermann Watzlawik Well-Known Member

    Thanks to both of you, at least I know now the origin!
     
  6. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Here is one, similar to yours from my collection to give you some idea on coin orientation and possible legends:

    Abbasid Governors, Mesopotamia: al-‘Abbas b. Muhammad (750-760 AD) AE Fals, al-Jazira (Album-304; Lavoix-1568)

    Obv: Within circle, لا إله إلا الله وحده (There is no God but Allah alone); in margin, أمر الأمير ألعباس بن محمد اعز الله نصره (Ordered by the amir al-‘Abbas bin Muhammad, may his victories be the glory of Allah)
    Rev: Within circle, محمد رسول الله (Muhammad is the apostle of Allah); pellet above first line; in margin, بسم الله ضرب هذا الفلس بالجزيرة (In the name of Allah was struck this fals of al-Jazira)

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  7. Hermann Watzlawik

    Hermann Watzlawik Well-Known Member

    Thaks again for your kind help
     
  8. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    Your coin is an issue of al-Ramlah, the Umayyad provincial capital of Palestine. The mint name is just legible on your coin at 9h on reverse (both images are inverted). This type was struck c. AH 90s (AD 710s). Album 185.
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    https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=112218
     
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  9. Hermann Watzlawik

    Hermann Watzlawik Well-Known Member

    you are right dltsry, I found some similar coins on internet. Thanks
     
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