hi i want to know what are those coins. i am not interested if they are fake or not. i want to know what they are. first coin: http://i5.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/a7/34/f8a0_1.JPG second coin: http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/a7/34/acd4_1.JPG thanks
I don't know, either, but that second coin has its "heads" in 3/4 profile--that's a pretty uncommon feature on a coin, though common in other portraits. I'm trying to recall what other coins I've seen that have that. Does the Winston Churchill crown?
I am, by no means, an expert, but I do collect ancient coins, and have seen my fair share. My gut tells me they're not actual coins, although they may indeed be ancient. The main reason for this is, there is no inscriptions as to whom the "coin" represents. No name of the person in charge, nor any real language on the coins signifying a country. Just as an example...
Ancient coins needn't always have insciptions. But I have never seen anything similar to the style of these coins before. Also, they're most certainly counterfeits. The fabric of the metal just looks wrong.
I wouldn't call them fakes because they really don't copy or pretend to be a specific issue, I would say they are modern fantacies with disigns loosely based on ancient Greek coin images. Value? What ever the metal value is.
No, not a fantasy...but fakes, I seldom will venture into proclaiming fakes...the second is without dount...the firs tI am pretty sure. The first one is a copy of Olympia coinage and if authentic it would be worth about 5000 USD It is a silver stater c. 432, the 87th Olympiad. Eagle flying right with wings above his body, grasping hare by the back with his talons and tearing at him with his beak Rev. F -A Nike, wearing peplos and chiton, seated left on the upper of two steps, with her right foot behind the lower step and the left before, holding, with her right hand resting on her right knee, a long palm branch with frond behind her head, and resting her left hand on the step behind here BMC 52-53...its Extremely rare.
The second is, without a doubt, a fake of this coin from Thrace: Thrace, Black Sea Area, Pantikapaion Gold Stater. Circa 340 BC. Bearded head of Pan left, in wreath of ivy leaves / P-A-N, griffin standing left on stalk of wheat, head facing, holding spear in mouth. Weber 2690, SNG Copenhagen 20, Gulbenkian 588, SNG Lockett 1095
