Help identyfing this roman coin

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  1. Radu

    Radu New Member

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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Can you snap a photo of the obverse? That would be helpful in trying to ID it.
     
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I don't think it's Roman, perhaps a Celtic coin? (which I am no expert in)
     
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  5. Radu

    Radu New Member

    i think it is replica/imitation of a roman....someone told me, not here in the forum though
    could it be the case?
    my fotos again are not the "best", in reality the coin looks better....i cleaned it as gentle as possible
     
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  7. Radu

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    Diameter: aproximatly 1,7 cm
    Weight, i do not have a scale, tomorrow in a jewelery shop
    Celtic would suprise me...
     
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  8. Radu

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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The reverse (eagle) looks like it is imitating a Roman Republican denarius of Petillius, mirror imaged, with blundered and retrograde legends (PTELLIVS is backwards; not sure about CAPITOLINVS... blundered but antegrade?):

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    example from CNG's archives

    Radu's coin, cropped and joined for ease of viewing:
    CT-Radu-UnknownAR.jpg

    The overall style looks unofficial/Celtic. I'm not very familiar with Celtic coins or unofficial coins. Maybe someone else here can shed some light on this.

    I wonder who is on the obverse. I thought the hairstyle suggested Apollo but what is the stylized trident (? quiver? other?) behind the bust? Maybe it is Dionysos?
     
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  10. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Nice catch @TIF It's these Obulco semi's that I keep seeing when I look at the obverse:
    obulco.jpg
    Image from Wildwinds

    Spain, AE Semis, 1st century BC. Obulco-Ibolka (Porcuna/Jaen)
    Obv: OBVL-NIC, laureate head of Apollo right
    Rev: Bull standing right, crescent above.
    Also 1st century BC ...
    @Radu what else can you tell us about the coin - where does it come from?
     
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  11. Radu

    Radu New Member

    Romania Center, Transylvania
     
  12. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    @Radu more non-expert suggestions: given the reverse is imitating a roman republican coin: a couple of articles that you might find relevant and interesting all three from Phillip Davis.

    http://rrimitations.ancients.info/index.html

    "NUMISMATIA DACIAN IMITATIONS OF ROMAN REPUBLICAN DENARI"
    https://www.academia.edu/29448651/Dacian_Imitations_of_Roman_Republican_Denarii
    A few quotes from this article below:
    • "Massive numbers of apparently official Republican issues have been found in Romania, some 32,000 in documented hoards!"
    • "more than have been unearthed anywhere outside Italy itself"
    • "Crawford has described this as one of the most remarkable phenomena within the pattern of monetary circulation in antiquity"
    • "These hoards contain a mixture of official republican coins and locally made imitations of them"
    The Celator, Dacian and Celtic Imitations of Republican Denarii
    http://community.vcoins.com/the-celator-vol-18-no-4/
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The purported find site fits with a Dacian imitation...

    @Volodya, what do you think? I don't see one quite like this in your papers. Could it be a new Class A Geto-Dacian Group II or III?
     
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