Help identifying Chinese 20 Cents

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by FarmerB, May 23, 2009.

  1. FarmerB

    FarmerB Senior Member

    I have not been able to locate this chinese 20 Cents. It is silver and about 24 mm in diameter. I think it may be a pattern - but I cannot confirm. The closest was Y104.1 - but no match
     

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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    I think you've caught Krause in another error.

    In the 2008 35th Ed. 20th Century Standard Catalog of World Coins the 20¢ Fukien Province silver coins are all described as spelling the provincial name "FU-KIEN", not the variant "FOO-KIEN" seen on your coin.

    However, in the 1984 13th Ed. of Yeoman's Modern World Coins 1850-1964 the "FOO-KIEN" spelling is clearly shown for the undated silver coins, including the 20¢ Y#104. (Yeoman doesn't list the varieties ID'd by Krause.)

    The pictures in Gunter Schön's World Coin Catalog are even worse than the ones in Krause, but his description of Schön #10 (Y#104.2) agrees with Yeoman, and disagrees with Krause. about the inscription.

    Bottom line - I think you have Fukien Province Y#104.2, and Krause describes it incorrectly.

    The 1985 English edition, translated from the 17th Ed. of Schön's German work, and the 1984 Yeoman edition both value it at $6 VF, $9 XF. Values are only a little higher in my 2008 35th Ed. of Krause.

    I'm not going to try grading your coin based on the picture you have posted.
     
  4. FarmerB

    FarmerB Senior Member

    Hontonai,
    I was thinking the same thing. The only question that I have is should the dragon be the same on both? When I compare my Krause 2006 version, the Y104.1 or .2 and my coin, the dragons are not the same.
    How do yours compare??
    I added new pic which shows dragon better
     

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  5. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Yes, it really should.

    The Krause, Yeoman and Schön pictures all have the same dragon, which differs from yours.

    Either you have an unknown variety, a pattern, or a product of the so-prolific Chinese counterfeiters.

    • Chances of an unknown variety first surfacing more than a century after the last production ended are pretty slim.
    • Patterns don't normally remain unknown for a century or more either.
    • Your coin doesn't have any of the obvious characteristic signs of counterfeits.
    So the end result is that I give up on trying to correctly attribute your coin.
     
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