I know it is difficult to grade a coin based on a photo, but can you'll give me your opinions on these two Morgans, 1882-O & 1887. The strange gold coloring is from poor lighting. Thanks for your help.
The pics aren't the best, but based on them I think the O coin would have likely graded 64, but it appears to have been harshly cleaned. I think the '87 would make the 64.
The 82-O will get a BB Body Bag for cleaning The 87 might get a 64 soft over the ear and rub on the breast feathers IMHO Paul
I agree that the '82 looks cleaned - would that make it valueless or just reduce the grade? Maybe MS-60 for the cleaning damage? I don't know, I'm no expert on the degrading effect of cleaning yet. I guess the '87 is MS-63.
I'm no expert either - all I can do is offer my opinions. But if a coin has been harshly cleaned it moves out of the MS grade range and rightly so for it is no longer mint state. It is in the area of net grading that there are simply no standards at all for one to go by. That is a large part of the reason why the TPGs don't do it - even ANACS no longer does it. But it is my opinion that a harshly cleaned coin should be graded no higher than AU50 - ever.
I would say low MS-60s for the 1882-O and MS-63 for 1887. These pictures make it hard to be more accurate. I will say that the 1882-O looks like it may have been cleaned. Also, I'm wondering if the 1882-O is an O/S variety. Its hard to tell with that picture.
82-O =The cleaning will not affect the grade, the cleaning is NOT harsh. MS-62. 87-P= MS 63. Final. The eagle's breast would give it 65 if it were more pristine.
Hi, Thwe 1882 - O is very harshly cleaned. The hairlines are visible even in the picture. It would be very hard to give the coin an MS grade. As one of you commented, The coin is no longer MS with the hairlines. A careful "dipping", while I don't reccommend it, is not harshly cleaned. Cleaning that moves metal around seems pretty harsh to me Have Fun, Bill
