Help grading an 1865 2 cent piece

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by GeorgeM, Jun 7, 2016.

  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    What would you grade this coin? My suspicion is that it has been cleaned, but I'm not seeing any scratches in the field.
     

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Hard to give it a grade with the darkness of the images, but I think I'd call it an AU-53 based on what I can see remaining of the WE. The color really doesn't look too bad to me; don't forget that they are made of a bronze alloy and don't quite darken as readily as a copper coin.
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Looks high AU with some strike weakness. I don't like the color as some pink shows but surface "coming back" from possible old CL. Coin needs conservation and more natural color and will probably straight grade. Oh forgot, just IMO. :facepalm:
     
  5. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The color on the reverse gives me pause. It has some splotchy spittle marks and finger prints on it, but "full red" at the lower left reverse inconsistent with the rest of the coin. If there is a sign of polishing here, it'll never grade. Also, there's some gunk on the obverse in the wreath by the left arrowhead that would have to be removed. The obverse overall color doesn't look bad.
     
  6. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    bump... (just looking for some more opinions)
     
  7. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Au details environment damage. It looks more like corrosion that someone tried to clean off. Or improperly rinsed dip that attacked the coin
     
  8. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Any other opinions?
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I can agree with the "improperly rinsed dip" theory, I suppose.

    The color is suspect and there are deposits as well. To me the coin has strong details and I'd agree AU details, but slightly negative eye appeal, unfortunately.
     
  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    It looks high grade, but weird. Could you take brighter pictures?
     
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