Help! Doing research paper on Medals commemorating deaths of the french royal family

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by awbw, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. awbw

    awbw New Member

    Hi

    I am a student at USC working on a research paper about this Medal:

    http://www.inumis.com/us/vso/V00006...t-du-traitre-par-loos-1793-berlin-a10308.html (tried to post image but keeps not working for some reason)

    Apparently it is one of six minted by Loos in Berlin to commemorate the deaths of the members of the French royal family executed in the revolution. The interesting thing about this particular medal is that, unlike the other unfortunate dead royals the subject of this medal (the Duc D'Orleans) was himself a revolutionary and infamously voted for the death of Louis his first cousin before he also fell victim to the Terror. The reverse image has a snake slithering around a crown to make the point.

    If anyone has any idea how I can find out more about this and the other medals in the series I would very much appreciate it. (I have a message in to the seller of the item but so far have not heard back)

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

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    Here's the medal you are trying to upload, I think.
     
  4. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    The saying on the back reads: "From his mountain finally the monster on the top
    Receives equal the price of the latter crime."
     
  5. awbw

    awbw New Member

    That is the one. I am trying to find out who commissioned it, when and who the other family members were in the series.

    I have tried to contact a dealer in france who last sold it but so far no luck.

    Any thoughts you have for ways to track down the above questions would be much appreciated
     
  6. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Yes, if you go to google books, there are at least two that will have info on this and possibly the other coins. The earliest one, that mentions LOOS being the maker is from 1822, and in German. The main Title is Münzen und Medaillen aller Könige in alphabetischer Ordnung dann der der Markgrafen Herzöge und Erzherzogin von Österreich by Joseph Appel
    but the part of this volumen that addresses the French medallions is Repertoriums zur Münzkunde des Mittelalters und der neuern Zeit. The part in German that goes with your medal you show is on page 620, and does link it with Loos.

    The next earliest book I could find that has this medal in it is a French one. It is from 1826 titled HISTOIRE NUMISMATIQUE DE LA RÉVOLUTION FRANÇAISE by Michel Hennin. pp. 371-372. In it, in the paragraph below the description of the medallion is a paragraph that translates to "This medal was published in Berlin after the death of the Duke of Orleans by Daniel Friedrich Loos Loos and his son C is the third of the series of six victims published by these writers and on which we have already seen the pertinent details of 21 January 1793 Article 469 N of the coin the two that form part of the legend indicate the following" (pardon the translation, it is one of those automatic things that google books has).

    I think you would be well off to look at these two books, and if you have anyone who can help you with translating this better than google does it, that would be good. I think the good points is that both books seem to be laid out in a good order, so it should be fairly simple to make your way through (especially near the pages given) to find correlating medallions.

    Good luck.
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Awbw, Welcome to the forum!

    I delete your duplicate thread as forum rules do not allow multiple threads on same subject.

    Jim
     
  8. awbw

    awbw New Member

    Thanks very much! That is very helpful!
     
  9. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member



    Wow Kasia, that was impressive. Good, no.... great job on all that researched information!
     
  10. bonbonbelly

    bonbonbelly Feel MS68 Look AG3

    Kasia,
    Duly impressed!
     
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