Helmets: An introspective into how the ancients attempted to keep brains in heads

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

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    (Corinthian style helmet)

    There were so many different styles and types of helmets that our ancient ancestors used to help keep them alive during battle its hard to not just collect them as a subset... oh, wait! Looking at my collection it appears that I have:woot:
    Remember, when the helmet failed the wearer met hell:vamp:
    Sometimes you pay a little extra when the coin looks a lot better than other examples, even when it's for something as basic as a helmet.
    This coin is definitely in that category ... though, I suppose there's nothing basic about helmets:
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    Kassander
    (316-297 BC). Ae. Uncertain Macedonian mint.
    Obv: Helmet left.
    Rev: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / KAΣΣANΔΡOΥ.
    Spear head.
    SNG München 1035; HGC 3.1, 999.
    Condition: Very fine.
    Weight: 3.98 g.
    Diameter: 18 mm.
    Purchased from Numismatik Naumann April 2022

    And some more head huggers:
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    A coin that never comes clearly showing all features (sorry Medusa's severed head and body) but this one gives an excellent view of the griffin:
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    Pontos. Amisos c 85-65 BC.
    Bronze Æ, 30mm., 18,18g.
    Helmeted head of Athena right, helmet decorated with griffin / AMIΣOY Perseus standing holding harpa and head of Medusa, at feet, body of Medusa, monograms to both sides.VF Sea 1166-76 (same).

    Another alluring;)helmet used by the Campanian mercenaries better known as the Mamertines:
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    SICILY, Entella. Campanian mercenaries. Circa 342-338 BC. Æ (16mm, 3.20 g, 9h). Horse prancing right / Helmet right. Campana 12; CNS 14OS; HGC 2, 254. Fine. Purchased from Savoca March 2022

    Certainly the absurdity of the double Athenas staring each other down and artistry sold me on this having a home in my cabinet:
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    LYCIA. Xanthos. Hemiobol or Tetartemorion (0.6 g. 10 mm.) (Circa 410-400 BC).
    Obv: Helmeted head of Athena right within dotted border.
    Rev: Helmeted head of Athena left within dotted border.
    SNG von Aulock -; cf. BMC 109 (Obol). Toned.
    Good very fine.
    Purchased from NBS November 2021

    Of course a couple of wicked looking Macedonian helmets never hurt anybody... oh wait, of course they did!
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    Tryphon, Diodotus
    Antioch, 141 BCE, AE 18mm, 4.7g
    Obvs: Head of Tryphon right diademed.
    Revs: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ TPYФΩNOΣ AYTOKPATOPOΣ, Spiked Macedonian helmet. Grain to left
    Order # G 139
    SC 2034.2b Ex:Savoca

    My first MSC!:wideyed:
    Helmets towards the end of the Macedonian empire seem to be much more utilitarian:
    IMG_0420.PNG Philip V and Perseus. Ca. 221-168 B.C.E
    Macedonian Kingdom. AE unit (17.1 mm, 6.07 g, 12 h). Uncertain Macedonian mint. Macedonian shield, star with spiral in center boss / M-K, ΔONΩN, Macedonian helmet with cheek guards, BA monogram below. SNG Alpha Bank -; SNG Cop -; McClean 3666. VF. Rare

    Though, my favorite helmet on coin is right there in my avatar:
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    (Attic style helmet, 300 BCE)

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    Philip V
    (221-179 BC). Tetradrachm. Uncertain Macedonian mint.
    Obv: Head of Perseus left, wearing winged helmet surmounted by griffin's head; harpa in background; all in the centre of Macedonian shield.
    Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ / ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ.
    Club right between legend in two lines; all within wreath right.
    SNG München 1125; HGC 3.1, 1056.
    Condition: Fine.
    Weight: 16.91 g.
    Diameter: 30 mm. Purchased from Numismatik Naumann November 2021



    Come on helmet heads and post those gnarly gnoggin guards, head protectors, skull caps and whatever makes you squeamish :jimlad:
     
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  3. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Here is my Corinthian Reproduction 69FB4A1D-4EEB-47F8-8DA1-CEFABFA4303E.jpeg 46461837-FB06-4159-B71C-B81330B1DAEE.jpeg Perhaps Corinthian is not Corinthian, I will call it Greek….
     
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  5. cmezner

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    Tetradrachm, Stephanophoric type
    30 x 29.5 mm, 17.202 g, 12 h
    Ionia, Herakleia ad Latmon, after 165 BC, ca. 165 – 140 BC
    SNG Lockett 2823; Pozzi 2452; SNG Kayhan 330; Lavva, Silberprägung, Group II.B, 8–9 var. (V5/R – [unlisted rev. die]); BMC 1 – 2; Jameson 1503; S. 4453 (monograms).

    Obv.: Helmeted head of Athena Parthenos to r. wearing ornately decorated helmet: Pegasos above raised ear flap, five horses on visor, Artemis on neck guard
    Rev.: HΡAKΛEΩTΩN, club; below, ΣK at left and ΩΔΡI at right of Nike walking l. holding wreath, all within laurel wreath

    Picture courtesy CNG:
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  6. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I posted all or most of these before, but why not again?

    A few of my favorite helmets on ancient coins, atop the heads of Athena, Roma, Mars, Arcadius, and Constantinopolis:

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    My favorite helmet on an ancient artifact, a 60 mm. bronze figurine of Mars Ultor:

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    My favorite old photo of someone in a helmet: my maternal grandfather in late October 1915 at the age of 20, taken in Cambrai in Northern France. He was an Unteroffizier in the 6. Infanterie Division, 12. Infanterie Brigade, Infanterie-Regiment
    Großherzog Friedrich Franz II von Mecklenburg-Schwerin (4. Brandenburgisches) Nr. 24 [you can read the 24 on his shoulder], 11. Compagnie, and was wounded four months later at Verdun.

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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here are some helmets!

    Constantinopolis Commemorative Thessalonica.jpg

    VRBS ROMA Wolf and Twins Siscia.jpg
    C Caecilius Metellus Caprarius Elephant Biga denarius.jpg
    Probus SALVS Antoninianus.jpg
    Sigeion Athena Owl SNG Cop 496-7.jpg
     
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  8. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    All I've got is the classic, good ol' Athena:

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  9. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Great, Donna those are absolutely wonderful
     
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  10. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Very nice
     
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  11. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

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    Maximinus II
    A.D. 309- 310
    Ӕ follis 26mm 6.4g
    MAXIMINVS NOB CAES; Helmeted and cuirassed bust left, holding spear over his right shoulder and shield decorated with two horsemen with Draco standards riding to left, four enemies below them; on cuirass, gorgoneion; on helmet, Sol standing facing in quadriga, raising his right hand in salute and holding globe in his left, around, stars and crescent, crest ending in griffin.
    VIRTVS EXERCITVS; Mars standing front, head to left, resting right hand on decorated shield and holding spear in left; in field to left, lighted altar; B in right field.
    In ex. ANT RIC VI Antioch 125
     
  12. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Pharsalos Ar Drachm 400-370 BC Obv Head of Athena right wearing Attic style helmet with raised cheek pieces. Rv. Thessalian cavalryman on prancing horse right. Lavva 80 V41/R48 BCD 638 5.95 grms 19 mm Photo by W. Hansen pharsalos1.jpg This was another of the coins I found while attending the NYINC earlier this year. This coin is another example of the rich numismatic heritage from the region of Thessaly.
     
  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Wow,@DonnaML, those are great ...and the one time I ever got to Europe, as an 11-year-old kid, the family spent a day at Verdun. Death on a truly industrial scale, almost as if to anticipate what would happen in the following generation, by other, still more horrifying means.
    ...And, especially to your point, here are a couple of recycles from an otherwise embarrassingly recent thread.
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    AETHELRED II, HELMET, WVLFSIGE ON, YOU THINK, CAMBRIDGE, RANT FOR GRANT,  REV..jpg
    AEthelred II, 'Helmet type' penny, c. 1003-1009 (North 775). Followed by Cnut:
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    COINS, ENGLAND, CNUT, HELMET, REV..jpg
     
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  14. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    New fashion tendencies - an outfit composed of helmet and cloak
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    Marcus Aurelius AD 161-180
    AR Denarius
    175-176
    M ANTONINVS AVG GERM SARM
    Head of Marcus Aurelius, laureate, right
    TR P XXX IMP VIII COS III
    Mars, helmeted, naked except for cloak flying behind, advancing right, holding transverse spear in right hand and trophy, sloped over left shoulder, in left hand

    A strong archaic style - Attic helmet
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    10 mm, 0,88 g
    Pisidia, Selge AR Obol Circa 350-300 BC Obverse: Facing gorgoneion with protruding tongue Reverse: Head of Athena to left, wearing crested Attic helmet; behind, astragalos References: SNG France 1928. SNG von Aulock 5281 Notes: Archaic style and a scarce variety with Athena portrait left. Possibly pre-dating the usual date of 350-300 BC typically assigned to this type.

    ... and also an archaic Corinthian
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    Mysia. Lampsakos circa 500-450 BC.
    Tetartemorion 0,14 g, 7 mm

    Male head (of Apollo?) to left, wearing taenia.
    Rev: Head of Athena to left, wearing Corinthian helmet, within incuse square.
    Asia Minor Coins, #12762; similar to CNG E-Auction 378 (2016), 161; Pecunem Online Auctions Auction 39 3 January 2016, lot 257; otherwise unpublished in the standard references

    I don't know what kind of helmet this is, perhaps @Ryro can help, I have seen this type of coins once or twice in his posts
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    ( :p )

    A Corinthian without its owner
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    Thrace. Mesembria circa 420-320 BC.
    Bronze Æ
    13 mm, 2,16 g
    Crested Corinthian helmet facing / META between four spokes of wheel. SNG BM 272-274; SNG Stancomb 225; Serdica CCCH IX, 14-18; Karayotov II, 47-54; SNG Cop. 653.


    An Attic one on a RR quartuncia
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    Anonymous 217-215 BC. Rome
    Quartuncia Æ
    16 mm, 2,46 g
    Obv: Head of Roma, right, wearing Attic helmet. / Rev: Roma, Prow, right
    RRC 38/8

    Honorius looks pretty proud about his.
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    Honorius AD 393-423. Cyzicus
    Follis Æ
    18 mm, 2,63 g
    401-403 AD
    D N HONORI-VS P F AVG, bust of Honorius, helmeted, pearl-diademed, cuirassed, facing front, holding spear in right hand behind head and shield decorated with cross on left arm / CONCORDI-A AVGG, Constantinopolis, helmeted, draped, enthroned, enthroned, facing front, head right, holding long sceptre in right hand and Victory on globe in left hand; beneath her right foot, prow.
    RIC X Arcadius 95
     
  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Cool helmets

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    P. Satrienus, Denarius - Rome mint, 77 BC
    Head of helmeted Mars right, XXX behind
    ROMA, She wolf passing left, [P] SATRI[E/NUS] at exergue
    3.79 gr
    Ref : RCV #319, RSC, Satriena # 1


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    Cnaeus Pompey Jr, Denarius - Corduba ? in 46-45 BC
    M [POBLICI LEG] PRO PR, Helmeted head of Rome right
    CN MAGNVS IMP, Spain standing right, presenting palm branch to a soldier (Pompey ?) standing left on a prow of galley
    3.65 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 48, RCV #1384, Cohen #1

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  16. Di Nomos

    Di Nomos Well-Known Member

    When I was 9 years old, my mum bought me a coin magazine that had an auction lift out in it. It had an Athenian tetradrachm with Athena wearing a crested helmet in it. From that moment I was hooked on ancient coins and especially Athena and her helmet.

    Many years later here are two of my favourites,(shown a number of times before). Firstly an archaic tetradrachm from Athens c. 500 - 490 BC and secondly a di nomos from Thurium in Italy c. 400 BC.


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  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    fashionable protection...:) IMG_0183.JPG IMG_0793.JPG IMG_6527.JPG
     
  18. Archeocultura

    Archeocultura Well-Known Member

    Some Constantinian period helmets, some crested and some high-crested. VII Arles F 0418-419 add.jpg VII Ticinum 127 Constantinus I Virtus E standard Vot xx 12 nr 930.jpg VII Trier 389 Constantinus I Beata 12-1433.jpg
     
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  19. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Ah yes! We colloquially referred to these as brain buckets when I was in the Army. Everything tends to take a dark tone of humor in the Infantry. Here are a few of my ancients with a decent looking brain bucket...
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  20. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I was never a fan of wearing a helmet when I was in the Army. Our helmets in the 60's consisted of a soft helmet and then a steel pot on top of that. I was a skinny kid when I got drafted in '68, and the helmet made my head wobble. However, after Basic Training and AIT, I jumped from 140 to 180 at 6'2". Skinny kids like me and the over weight kids were on special diets to add weight or lose it. Anyway, jumping with a helmet wasn't fun to me. I like the looks of the helmets shown, but I wonder if they had any padding between their heads and their helmets.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I won't post a photo of my bicycling helmet, but I will compliment @Ryro on the headline, and observe that keeping brains in heads is still a worthy goal. :)
     
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