Hello My Name Is: Nero

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  1. MaryContrary

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    In decent shape for its age. The paperwork with it said:
    Silver - Salus Denarius
    Minted in Rome - Struck in 65-66 A.D.
    Obverse: NERO CAESAR AVGVSTVS
    Reverse: SALVS


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  3. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Nice coin.
     
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  4. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    Thank you. Not too bad looking for as old as it is. lol
     
  5. expat

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    Do you know which Roettier it is. There were a number of them in the 17th-18th century. John, James, Jacques.
     
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  6. lrbguy

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    So is the paperwork saying the coin is original to 65 AD or an "original" repro product of the 17th or 18th century? The fabric of that coin does not look like anything from the first century.

    added: [It looks like it was cast rather than struck.]
     
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  7. MaryContrary

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    It could be. It did not say repro product.
     
  8. MaryContrary

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    I don't know. The paperwork just said J. Roettier. But I can't find a link with that name on it at all....???
    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces246235.html
     
  9. expat

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  10. MaryContrary

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    I don't think any of the Roettiers engraved it. The sender either mistakenly typed it on there or like @lrbguy said, maybe it's a repo and it is not stated on the papers.?
     
  11. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    Oh God....Sooooo sorry. It was my fault. I put the engraver on there by accident. It goes to another coin. I had the paper side by side. I do apologize. :sorry:
     
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  12. MaryContrary

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    Oh God....Sooooo sorry. It was my fault. I put the engraver on there by accident. It goes to another coin. I had the paper side by side. I do apologize. :sorry:
     
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  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    The coin looks fine, very nice, for the type.

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    Nero (54 - 68 A.D.)
    Seleucis & Pieria, Antioch
    AR Tetradrachm 
O: NERO CLAVD DIVI CLAVD F CAESAR AVG GER, laureate head of Nero right; star behind.

    R: [DIVOS] CLAVD AVG GERMANIC PATER AVG, laureate head of Claudius right.
    Syrian Mint - 63-68 AD
    14.11g
    26mm
    Prieur 48; RPC I 4123; BMC 172; Sydenham 65 (Caesarea); RSC 2; McAlee 270.

    With wife he killed, when she was pregnant.

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    Nero (54 - 68 A.D.)
    Billon tetradrachm
    O: NEPΩ KΛAY KAIΣ ΣEB ΓEP AY, radiate head right.
    R.ΠOΠΠAIA ΣEBAΣTH, draped bust of Poppaea right, date LI right (year 10).
    Alexandria mint 63 - 64 A.D.
    12.5g
    25mm
    Milne 216, Curtis 132, RPC I 5275, Geissen 157

    Ex. Harlen J. Berk

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    Nero (54 - 68 A.D.)
    Egypt, Alexandria
    Billon Tetradrachm
    O: NEΡΩ KΛAY KAIS SEBA GEP AVTO, laureate head right.
    R: NEO AGAQ DAIM, Agathodaemon serpent, coiled with head up, holding poppies and grain ears, L ς (date) to left. Year 6.
    23mm
    13.11g
    Milne 203; Emmett 106.6 (R4) ; RPC 5260

    The Agathodaemon was a good spirit/demon that was worshipped by the ancient Egyptians.
    He had the shape of a serpent with a human head.
    The Greek inscription on the reverse of this coin shows that this is the "neo" or "new" agathodaemon serpent, or, in other words, the new good spirit (of rule by Nero).

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    Nero (54 - 68 A.D.)
    AR Tetradrachm
    SYRIA, Seleucis and Pieria. Antioch
    O: NEPΩNOΣ KAICAPOΣ ΣEBAΣTOY, Laureate bust right, wearing aegis.
    R: Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, with wings spread; palm frond to left, H/IP (dates) to right.
    Dated year 110 of the Caesarian era; RY 8 (AD 61/62).
    27mm
    13.4g
    RPC I 4182; McAlee 258; Prieur 82.
     
  14. expat

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    He was known to take inspirtion from ancient coinage.
    This from coins and history foundation
    For the reverse design, Roettiers drew inspiration from an ancient coin, first struck during the reign of Emperor Hadrian during the Roman occupation of Britain in the second century.
    Just seen your last post, mistakes happen
     
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  15. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    Your coins look very nice and authentic. I guess mine might be a repo or cast.
     
  16. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Great portrait, terrific coin, congrats.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @MaryContrary I’m no expert but it look original 1st century to me. I’m also sure it’s silver but I know it would look nice in my collection. Hehehe
     
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  18. MaryContrary

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    Thank you so much.
     
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  19. Curtis

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    I don't see any problems with the coin itself, though the photos aren't really clear enough to know for sure. But my initial reaction would be that it looks like a legit ancient struck denarius. (If really concerned you could go hunting through ACSearch for die matches to genuine ones or FAC for matches to fake ones.)

    Nice set of Provincial Nero's, @Mat !

    This may be my only Alexandrian Nero, a Tetradrachm with an Apollo reverse:
    Nero Apollo BI Tetradrachm Egypt Alexandria Naville 55 (8 Feb 20) 245, 64 (20 Mar 21) 271.jpg
    My favorite Nero Provincials:

    First pair are from Thessaly. This one shows Nero on the back in the guise of Apollo playing a kithara / lyre. (There's also an As/Dupondius version, famously described by Suetonius in his 12 Caesars history.)

    I like to think of this as Nero fiddling while Rome burns... He actually was doing that, but not in Rome! He returned from a "Games trip" to find the city on fire:
    Nero Thessaly Koinon BCD Merani (490, 65).jpg
    Burrer "Plate Coin" (click to enlarge), this coin is illustrated as A1 / R1:
    Burrer Nero BCD Thessalian League Plates Text.jpg

    Next one is with a Taurokathapsia (Greek bull wrestling) scene on the reverse. These were surely struck after Nero's tour of the Greek games c. 64, and his "liberation of Achaea" (which included Thessaly at that time):
    Nero Thessaly Koinon Taurokathapsia BCD (CNG 325, 493).jpg

    One from Phrygia, Eumenia:
    Nero Phrygia Eumeneia Lockett Triptych.jpg

    Another Phrygian one, this time Acmoneia:

    Phrygia, Acmoneia Nero Ex EE Clain-Stefanelli Ex Naville 64.jpg
     
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  20. MaryContrary

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    I'm sure it would look wonderful in your collection my friend. :happy:
     
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  21. MaryContrary

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    You have some amazing coins, that is for sure. My coin is sealed in plastic. Should I unseal it? I might be able to take a better picture that way.
     
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