Having a serious brain f**T

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 1066merlin, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    What is it called when you see a "ghost image" of the obverse on the reverse. For the life of me I can't remember, as of yesterday I'm a year
    older and today the wheels are starting to come off already LOL!

    Thanks in advance
    Mark in NJ
     
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  3. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    Well sometimes brockages are confused with ghosting.....

    But in all reality, Brockage occurs when an already struck coin sticks to the die and impresses onto another coin.

    Ghosting on the other hand, is more or less a strikethrough of the bust.

    This is the best definition of ghosting I could find, it specifically refers to Edward VII Pennies.

    "This was caused by the deep relief of the King's head. As a result, the flow of metal during striking often resulted in a ghost-like image on the reverse"

    Hope that helps!
     
  4. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    And, Happy Birthday! Hope it was fun.

    Lucy:)
     
  5. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    A die clash? That could provide elements of the reverse on the obverse...such wabbit teeth and Ben Franklin Half. If you are thinking of a term where the planchet was struck so strongly that the elements appear on both sides of the coin I'm afraid I don't have the answer. Oh, and happy birthday and be proud of farts like any guy would!
     
  6. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I'm no good with errors, but I like what Zach said. And, if you post this in the errors section theres a good chance one of the best error guys anywhere, Mike Diamond, will answer.
    Guy
     
  7. Lincoln Cents

    Lincoln Cents Cents not pennies

    Heavy die transfer.
     
  8. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

  9. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    Ok to settle this I'm going to ask you to tell me what you are thinking of based on the following pictures....


    brockage.jpg die clash.png ghosting.png



    1. Brockage
    2. Die Clash
    3. Ghosting
     
  10. Lincoln Cents

    Lincoln Cents Cents not pennies

    A die clash is when the dies hit each other and the image of the coin is transferred to the the other die making the image of the coin sharper than a "ghost" image.

    A "ghost" of the obverse appearing on the reverse is a heavy die transfer, which in other words, the die was overused and the image of the obverse is transferred to the reverse as a result of the dies "warping" under pressure
    . Coins_Aab 041.jpg Coins_Aab 042.jpg
    In this case, you see the cross on the back of this centime.
     
  11. Lincoln Cents

    Lincoln Cents Cents not pennies

    Heh, we posted at the same time (the times are different, but they appeared at the same time on my computer.)
     
  12. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Merlin, are you from northern New Jersey?
     
  13. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    No, I'm across the river from Philadelphia.
     
  14. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    It is number 3 Zach, in fact it's even the same coin, LOL! I cant quite make out what year you have there. The one I have is a 1911.

    Thanks!!!!
     
  15. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    Thanks Lucy!
     
  16. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    LOL,
    Thanks dimeguy
     
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