Everyone this may be old news but if not you really need to listen to Cointalk's own Doug Prather discuss the history of the ducat on radio - The Coin Show. (coinshowradio.com ) There is a link on the right side of the forum page. The discussion is in Episode 9. The coin show radio is hosted by Matt Dinger (aka LostDutchman). Doug offers shares good information on these great historical gold coins !! I found it so interesting to put a voice with the face and of course was so excited and humbled that he even mentioned my name at one point regarding some reference materials on the Russian ducat. Thanks Doug :hail: Check it out