Has the markers....

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Zzyzzyth, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    ..but, I've been bitten by DDD before.

    Bought a 64 P&D Washington.

    I'll start with the 64. Looks like a doubled die to me, but so has every other coin I have posted so far. Has a lot of the CONECA markers, but I'm sure that means nothing, too. I wish there were pics to compare to like coppercoins does for Lincolns.

    Anyway, the 64 has the die cracks through the bust, left wing, and eagle's head, but also has a die crack through BUS on the reverse which I did not see listed on CONECA. Making me more reluctant to believe.

    The obverse of the 64D looks almost exactly the same as the 64, die crack through the bust, motto looks doubled (again, to me). If the P checks out, I'll post pics of the D and will have more questions.
     

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  3. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Maybe it's because I didn't put it in the form of a question.

    Is this one of the DDO's?
     
  4. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Nice coin but No DDO...sorry:-(

    Bill O'
     
  5. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Thanks for the response.

    Can you tell me how all the markers are there? Would they use a master die with cracks in it to make working dies? And across mints? The crack on the busts and the lettering on the motto look very similar on both the P and the D. And would also mean several working dies (at least on the P) would have the same die cracks on the reverse in the same places as the DDO markers listed on CONECA?
     
  6. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    It's a random thing most likley,

    It's a random thing most likley, all modern coinage esp. 1950 thru 1970 have die cracks all over the place.
    You'll be better served to find the true doubled die first then look for die markers to verify it has such. I suspect you found some die markers and tried to make them the same as the doubled die variety, worng way around - I hope this helps you.
     
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Isnt die damage considered some sort of an error??
     
  8. Stilson

    Stilson Junior Member


    Some things like die cracks may not be. I have full circle crack morgans. But they are not considered errors. Some "errors" (die problems) are simply accepted by the mint and the die is still used. More of a variety or die marriage. Somethings like clipped planchets, broadstrikes, off centers, etc are. They were never meant to get out.

    I did not list all of them. but you get the idea.
     
  9. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    No, It's die left in service too long.

    No, It's die left in service too long. Larger die breaks on modern coins can be errors worth a premieum but in this error no way - again they are as common as cats.
     
  10. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    No, actually I thought the motto looked doubled and then when I seen the markers I thought I was on to something.

    Then, it looked like the motto was doubled on the 64D, and I sarted wondering what were the chances the dealer would send me one of each. Then I started wondering if both DDO's were from the same mint set.
     
  11. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Many Washington's of this era show heavy mottos but I don't see anything

    Many Washington's of this era show heavy mottos but I don't see anything on your coin that looks like a doubled die.
     
  12. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Thanks for the input. Oh well, at least I got a couple cool die cracks.
     
  13. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Die cracks along the bottom of Washington's bust are common on the older quarters and in fact are pretty common on the States Quarters too. You also see a fair number of Kennedy halves with the same type of anomaly running along the bottom of Kennedy.

    When someone lists die markers, you have to keep in mind that the same type of anomaly can happen on many coins and therefore, it is a combination of things that must be taken into consideration.

    The very first thing is that there has to be doubling:) Without any doubling, the "die markers" don't even come into play.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
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