Hand signed notes (colonial)

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by samjimmy, Aug 6, 2005.

  1. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    I am a bit confused as to one thing I've noticed. When I've seen sheets of colonial notes offered, the numbers (instead of being consecutive), are all the same. Here's an example sheet of three notes, all numbered 19116. I've seen this before as well.

    I don't get it. Why would they be numbered the same?
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I know next to nothing about colonial notes - but if there is more than one numbered the same I would suspect that they are not genuine. Could be wrong I guess.
     
  4. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    Well, the actual notes aren't the same denominations... One, Two, Five Shillings. I guess they number the sheet, not the note. Just seems weird to me, but I guess that's how it's still done today. Though the notes aren't printed on the same sheet, but you could have two identical numbered notes, different denominations.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That makes sense - but if I ever found two of the same denomination AND the same number - it would give me pause.
     
  6. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    Most definitely!
     
  7. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    does that say "Act of Affembly Paffed"? and "Public Teafury"?

    I see that the "s" in "is" following North Carolina appears normal, as is the "'s" is Shilling's
     
  8. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    Liberty And Ivstice For All

    The rule is that the first s of a two esses, or an s alone in the MIDDLE of a word, but neither the first nor last s has the elongated form: Congrefs.

    A similar rule is followed in Greek, where the lower case sigma has a different form for the beginning or middle than at the end.

    In Arabic, these forms differences are many. They also appear in other alphabets and kinds of writing.

    In American English cursive writing, we slightly modify the forms of letters depending on which they are attached to br being a little different from ar.

    In German, the double-s has a B-shape and is also called the s-zet, from the time 500 years ago or less when a word like "die StraBe" ("die Strasse" = the street) would have been spelled "s t r a s z e" -- I mention this as being the most common and accessible explanation of the long-S in older English.

    And then there is always the one that trips up people unfamiliar with US coinage, the Peace Dollar with IN GOD WE TRVST.
     
  9. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    huh... I didn't know that.


    thanks Mike!
     
  10. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Samjimmy,today,it is the note that is numbered.This is the first instance I have seen of notes of different denominations bearing the same serial number,apart from the ones in collectors' & presentation sets.

    As for saying that the North Carolina banknotes are fakes,that is not right,as the numbering of notes was done by hand until the late 19th Century.I know that is definitely the case with some English notes.Colonial American notes (pre-1776) are of interest to British Commonwealth note collectors such as myself.I have never been offered them though,but I am getting some Canadian 25c. shinplasters.

    Aidan.
     
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