Guess this grade

After all the hullabaloo, let's lighten things up a bit with a guess the grade. The black streaks are on the coin, but they are not scratches

 

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Dick,
I am going to say it's a 63. However with this post of yours it probably got graded less than that.

-Shrek

 

This is a tricky one. I'm not quite sure if I see rub or not, but I do notice an incomplete rim. I'm gonna give it an MS-61...

 

Ms63 rb

 

I am wondering what is going on between the two black streaks at the top. The first starts on the left and cuts through the middle of the ear. The second is above that and goes through the top of the hairline right about the top of the forehead. To me it almost looks like it was struck through something - or it could just be smudges on the holder. Anyway that one section looks weakly struck between those two lines.

Nice coin anyway.

 

Hey GDJMSP,

do you copy and paste the pictures then blow them up or do you use a special program?

 

First off, no, it is not genuine. I might be able to see another piece like the area you reference just below his tie. It looks to me like it is just die polish lines from minting. There is also a minute woodgraining that kind of make the flat surfaces sparkle a bit (adding to the effect you are seeing). I see no evidence that it has been whizzed.

 

I am sure he has a program to blow up the pictures, but that is virtually the same size as my original. (He has only blown it up about 10%). All you have to do is click on the photo 3 times. Once to get it to opens a pop-up, second opens a new window and the third onlarges the pic to full size.

 

I don't know what to tell you. I took a light and a loupe and twisted it every way I could, and the only place I can find those marks is right on the edge of the devises. That is exactly where die polishing would show up (along with the flats).

 

I figured you were going to do something like that and I cannot find the thread example I am looking for, but here is the picture (it is the same picture as in the thread). I guess I missed something because I will swear that you agreed the striations on his back were die polish/die wear. Those are the same type as I am seeing on this coin.

 

It seems to me that during the die polishing process there isn't always flat surface to flat surface contact. Isn't possible that the tool was used on a slight angle and on the edge of the zinc plate. Wouldn't that move metal downwards into the incuse area of the die?

 

This it?
A couple new additions - CoinTalk

 

How about foreign material getting stuck between them?

 

Yep! Thanks! I even looked at that thread, but did not go down far enough. DAH!

 

As someone who examines usually hundreds of Lincolns a day, I can tell you that die polish lines do not only show up in the fields. That's where they typically are, but on Lincolns they also commonly show up on the vest area, the forehead, the ears, and in the transition areas. Take a look at the polish lines on the wings of this 1899 VAM 5:

http://www.vamworld.com/1899+Micro+O+Guide