Guess the NGC grade PF 1897 $2 1/2 Gold Liberty

Well - Ill give you guys a bit of info to base you guess on. I sent the coin to NCS 1st . It was conserved & crossed into a NGC slab.
I could have taken the pic a bit differently but I think it would have affected your guesses too much

Keep in mind this picture was taken before the coin was sent to service-
Good luck-

 

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PF-65 Cameo

 

Any hairlines?

The reason I ask is that grades on coins like this are highly dependant on hairlines, and your photos are taken in such a way that if they were there they would likely not show.

If no hairlines, I see at least a 64 CAM designation, and quite possibly higher.

Regardless, proof gold is SUPER COOL, and something I've always wanted to own -- so thanks for sharing!!!...Mike

 

I say PF65 CAM.

 

Not that I have a clue what I am doing with gold, but PF65 Ultra Cameo.

 

64cam due to the slide hits from storage in an album, obverse has it pretty good, as would happen in an album.

 

I'll say 66 with a cameo designation........

 

Is that what causes those lines that are visible?

 

I believe Jack is referring to the high-points on the obverse that have less frostiness. That said, I'm not necessarily convinced that a slide caused this (you don't find many proof gold pieces in holders with slides, frankly). Personally, I would guess that it is what's commonly called "cabinet friction", but it could also be what Jack suggests, other types of mishandling, or just a lack of frost on the original die. I'd want to see the coin in-hand to make a determination one way or the other, but I'd say the odds are against the chance that an album slide cause the feature we are referring to.

Respectfully submitted as MHO...>Mike

 

OK, that makes sense. I see the loss of frost on the high points now. Thanks Mike!!!

 

You are most welcome. I'd be very interested in Bud's assessment of these areas (after he gives us the grade, of course).

 

Wow ! What a scorcher.

Based on the photos, it's a PR64 DCAM. Yes, there is minor funk on the obverse - chin, eye, curls at the temple. Between date and star 1, around star 5, above the cornet. I personally don't think it can go 65.

From your comments, I'm assuming the coin was photographed raw.

Hot coin ! :thumb:

 

I was thinking the same thing to be honest. I am curious though...what about this coin made it unfit to be graded? Also, what could NCS do to fix that? I have always been skeptical of this whole NCS coin restoration thing...doesn't that seem a touch like cleaning a coin?

 

I see green stuff on both sides, which leads me to believe it was sent to NCS to remove PVC residue. I really see just a couple of hairlines, so I'll guess PF-65 cameo....

 

OK, that makes sense now. Thanks GD!!! :thumb:

 

hmm...

I grade it BEAUTIFUL-64 Cameo

 

OK,OK, your right it is a bit unfair. I thought the pic would be a bit more represenative of what it will actually look like. (its not back yet) .

Here she is before conservation-

You are correct,The reason I sent it to NCS was for the touch of haze it had-(not PVC) .This coin was is a moster & I wanted it to have the best treatment & chance availible to get what it deserved in my opinion.
The coin was stored in an old coin envelope for about 50 years & that is probably what caused the "slide" that AZJack was referring to.