If the scratch is on the coin, I'd have to go for MS 64. Obverse is definitely better, but they are going to downgrade it for the scratch.
Well then. i am not so confident. It does appear to have booming luster, so I will stay with 65. I also notice the bell has a big crack running down it!
i'm going low; ms-63. the cheek looks noisy and to the right of the head also. the reverse could be worse or it could just be the air-tite it is in. however, i am not an ike expert, or any type expert for that matter.
I am 100% sure this one is either an MS63 or MS64. Given that your first guess the Ike grade on the 1972 Type 2 got a bump up from PCGS, I will go with MS64...final answer. TC BTW: If this one goes MS65 or higher, I have some Ike coins I would like for you to submit on my behalf. :smile
You really have to see this coin in hand because it looks to have alot of annealing which is common with ikes.
I undergraded the last one. This one looks 66 to me and that's what I guessed. Certainly clean enough for a 66, but how's the luster. Toning appears normal too -- typical yellow hue in MS clad coins. Here is my own 66 (again, old crappy photos):
I'm going 65. I can't fathom lowering it to 64 or bumping to 66 with the reverse scratches like that. Toning looks natural to me as well.
The coin looks better in the picture with the holder than the close up. I said 64, but can clearly see the 65 in this shot.
Since I missed the 72 T2 so bad, I'm glad I got this one correct. Very nice coin Atarian. I LOVE these guess the grade IKE posts!!
Wow I really missed that one!! I've noticed that Eisenhowers grade better than my instincts tell me. Is it the large surface area of the coin that allows the coin to have more bag marks per area? Is that even taken into consideration with TPGs?
Wow! I have been off on both of your Ikes so far. I seem to be a tougher grader than PCGS. I do have a raw 1976 Type I Ike sunning itself on a window ledge in my house that may need to go to PCGS pronto. TC
TopCat I dunno - the ones I send in seem to get hammered. I look at their on-line photograde dealie and compare them to ones I have, and other PCGS Ikes I have in hand, and for some reason they usually (75% of the time) come back as less than I expected. Sometimes much less. I have to buy the high graded ones already slabbed. Leadfoot that Ike is awesome, by the way. miedbe7 the Ikes for some reason usually show horrible annealing chatter. I'm not sure if this is because this was the first big coin the mint did in copper-nickel or what. I have a NGC 'mint error' blank planchet and it looks as if Jack-the-Ripper was really ****ed off at it. Here's an example: http://www.jmscoins.com/store/product.php?productid=16318&cat=261&page=5