Guess the grade of this Lincoln - with a twist

Here is a Lincoln that may be why ANACS started grading each side separately. Oh! Do I wish that the reverse were as nice as the observe. Anyway, what grade would you give the observe? I will post the reverse later tonight

 

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Picture looks a bit washed out, but I'm going to go with a VF-30 obv, with a bit more contrast in the picture I might be able to see if the cheek is separate enough to go XF-40

 

I'll go with lack of contrast in the picture XF-40 .
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Full bow-tie, looks like a pretty good beard...a little washed out around the critical cheek area, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say possibly unc. More contrats will either prove my guess foolish or spot on!

 

MS I-can't-grade-from-your-pictures


Squint real tight, hold both your thumbs and forefingers together until there is just a pinhole and look through the hole


Uhhh - that was supposed ot be the quote button I hit there :headbang:

 

Is This Pic Any Better? Sorry about the lint.

 

62 RB, could go as high as 64 RD

 

Sorry about the pic. In hand, the observe is a nice strike, with all the details showing including a lot of the whiskers on the beard and good luster. I could see it getting a 65 RB, but I would probably call it 64 because of the overall appearance. The reverse is also a nice strike and it may be redder than the observe, but through something (grease?) by pluribus and one. And there are a couple carbon spots. Anyhow, ICG netted it out as a 62 RB.

BTW, there is a fair die crack at about 4:00 on the reverse and a small one between the "IN" and "GOD".

 

The only thing you could be seeing on the observe as tiny hits would be lint.

 

Exactly what I saw as well

Seems pretty strictly graded, and the rev is not really that bad. Crack it and get more money for it I bet, or resubmit raw and try for the 63.

I have seen 65's ( at least the holder said so ) like that too yannow.......

 

Yes, there is some chatter on the shoulder, but I have seen that much chatter on many 66's and even some chatter on 67's. However, there is nothing on the coin in front of the face. That is lint/holder.

 

If thats the case, you need to crack it and submit ( in person at Long Beach......ignore the airfare, save $10 on sending it registered mail ) to either PCGS or NGC for a try at that 63 or 64. It'll stand a good chance at 64 !!! ( forget the 65 with the weak reverse ) but 64 could happen easily.

 

Doug,

I said that I have seen MS66 coins with as much chatter as on my coin. Here is a pic of the 1944-S MS66 by NGC - the $350,000 coin. I have tried to make the pic the same as your pic. I will grant you that the 44 is a better strike (and a better pic), but I think my coin actually has a cleaner shoulder than the 44.

 

I could probably find another 20+ without any trouble just from my coins with just as much chatter. My guess is that NGC ignores it - at least until it gets out of hand.

As to my coin, I just think that the front could be a 64 while the back is a 61/62 and probably lucky to be graded at all due to the spots.

 

It is sooooo hard to grade from pics, I'm going to quit trying. Pics can go either way, exagerating or covering.....you never can tell unless it is in hand.

Yes GD, it took me a while to learn this. I should have listened to you a over year ago when I joined this forum

 

At the risk of starting another forum war, IMO that coin was market graded to a 62 and its surfaces are clean enough for a much higher grade. But it (and I mean no offense) lacks eye appeal -- thus the markey grade downward.

And GDJMSP, keep your paws off my posts!