Guess The Grade: JFK Halves

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ndgoflo, Jan 7, 2005.

  1. ndgoflo

    ndgoflo Senior Member

    Ok here we go again! Here's a couple Kennedy's for your grading opinions. Guesses now, answers later! Have fun!! :D

    Here's a 1965
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    And a 1969-D
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  3. cholmes75

    cholmes75 New Member

    I'd give the 1965 an MS-67, maybe dropping down to 66. I personally don't care for the some of the toning on the obverse but that's just me.

    I'd put the 1969 at about MS-62. Way too many marks on the obverse and the details on the reverse are not nearly as sharp as the first coin (the shield for starters).

    One caveat - I am not a very good grader. :)
     
  4. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    The '65 should go 66 but might get the SMS designation.

    The '69-D is probably MS-65 but might be 64.
     
  5. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    1965 - MS67 SMS
    1969d - Ms63
     
  6. Catman

    Catman New Member

    1965- Kennedy -- MS-65

    1869-D Kennedy -- MS-63


    catman
     
  7. Gary

    Gary New Member

    1965 Ms-65

    1969d Ms-62
     
  8. ziggy29

    ziggy29 Senior Member

    I'd give the '65 MS-66, possibly SMS -- can't really tell for sure.

    the '69-S is about a 63, IMO.
     
  9. cdb1950

    cdb1950 Senior Member

    The 1965: NGC MS67 or ANACS MS66 not SMS

    The 1969-D: NGC MS65 or ANACS MS64
     
  10. Metalman

    Metalman New Member

    First coin MS 65 it is obviously a late die state,based on the flowlines ,, IMHO this would exclude it from a higher grade

    second MS-61 what appears to be wear but may just be a weak strike on the hair and the rim dings on the obverse and what appears to be wear but maybe be the result of a weak strike on the sheild and tail as well as the bag marks .
     
  11. ndgoflo

    ndgoflo Senior Member

    Well guys, this thread ain't gettin' too much attention. Guess I'll go ahead and post the grades. Anybody else care to guess before I do?
     
  12. cholmes75

    cholmes75 New Member

  13. skane

    skane Senior Member

    Please post it, I've been dying to know...
     
  14. ndgoflo

    ndgoflo Senior Member

    OK Here ya go!!


    Here's the 1965

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    And here's the 1969-D

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    Now, can anyone here justify/clarify how both of these coins recieved the same grade?
     
  15. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    The differance between ANACS and NGC?
     
  16. Catman

    Catman New Member

    The person at NGC had too much coffee and was tired at the end of his shift when he/she graded it....?

    catman
     
  17. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    Another example of everyone makes mistakes :rolleyes:
     
  18. pcrdnadave

    pcrdnadave Senior Member

    Another example of why I like ANACS.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Yup - dip residue that was not visible when the coin was graded.
     
  20. ndgoflo

    ndgoflo Senior Member


    I assume that you are talking about the slight toning on the '65? If so, that doesn't bother my at all. What I'm seeing is a bag marked '69-D with the same grade as the '65 with nice clear surfaces. Now I know that the SMS coins are "more carefully" produced, but to me, a grade is a grade. No matter if it's business strike, proof, sms etc.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    But that's not true - coins from each year and from each mint are graded differently. You can't compare or grade a '65 Kennedy the same way you do a '69 Kennedy. ('69 was a terrible year for Kenndy halves - they were all very weakly struck.) That would be like trying a grade an 1879-S Morgan the same way you would an 1884-O - it simply can't be done.

    So - when you grade both coins - they can easily be the same grade but look entirely different.

    And what I see isn't toning - I see spots.
     
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