Guess the grade - ANA show grading (PCGS 1 of 5)

You all know the drill by now (see if I was crazy, wise, or somewhere in between).
Having concluded the NGC portion, I move along to the PCGS.

The first coin used to be NGC and is now in a PCGS holder.
Please guess the grade from each grading company.

Note: only NGC photo available for now from the seller since the TrueViews have not loaded yet.

 

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@jtlee321 you can guess on this one since you don't know.
@Morgandude11 and others come on by too.

 

I would guess MS 61, maybe MS 62.

 

NGC 64. PCGS 65.

 

I would guess NGC MS-62 to PCGS MS-63. The obverse appears to have quite a few bag marks, the reverse is pretty clean. I'm hoping PCGS gave the color bump.

 

MS63 (pcgs)
I for one feel that everything in this business needs a shake up.

 

MS 65

 

64

 

64

 

62* to 63+

 

What type of shake up are wanting?
CAC entering the grading game?
I’d enjoy hearing your ideas.

 

I’m at a MS-64.

 

PCGS photo loaded:

 

64 plus

 

Anyone else?

 

Given it's close to 24 hours and some might be anxiously waiting for results, here they are:
NGC called the coin MS 63 (no star) and PCGS called it MS 62.
So @jtlee321 it's the reverse of what you said. I was thinking the coin was a 63, especially with the color. I did not expect the downgrade. Given that there was no star from NGC, it was worth the the effort to submit. Some of the big PCGS guys might still prefer it as a 62 in the "right" slab vs a 63 at NGC. Either way this one is sticking around in my collection so I'm ok with it as-is.

 

I'm surprised they did not give a color bump like they usually do.

 

I was out of town for this one. I try not to guess grades on my phone, but use my iPad Pro, with its better resolution, and larger image to grade coin photos. My grade would have been MS 63* for NGC. The PCGS grade would have been 63 for me. The downgrade was ridiculous.

 

If it was blast white, I could see a 62 but for a toned coin with market grading, the 62 was puzzling.

 

Maybe the grader doesn’t like toned coins.