Guess the grade #46

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2010- NGC Grade?

Poll closed Aug 10, 2010.
  1. 63

    37.5%
  2. 64

    29.2%
  3. 65

    16.7%
  4. 66

    16.7%
  5. 67

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. 68

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    2010- NGC slabbed

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  3. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    63 because of all the rub on the obverse and reverse. Or are those flow marks?

    On another note, why in the world would you purchase one or get one graded?
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Why? - Because I am running a registry set. Believe me, they were not expensive.
     
  5. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    WOW, I've gotten better ones myself in pocket change, if that is higher than 64's, I must be pulling 70's
     
  6. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    I agree, I just got 3 in my change that look way better than that!
     
  7. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    65 but I dont think it should be.

    That forhead and bottom of the obv has what maybe a counting wheel scratch.
     
  8. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    63+2+MS65 RD

    Could this be a future woody? How could it be? But the graining is right.
     
  9. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    I'd like to say 63,, but I always go low, so +1.... and I've seen some pretty cruddy current memorials in high grade slabs, so +1 there too.... and I think pcgs and ngc automatically give anyone paying ~$30 to slab a 1 cent coin with no collector value a +1 on thier final grade... soooo,, 63+3 = MS66
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    FWIW, my guess is that they paid $7.50 for that slab. Not too sure about the shipping, though.
     
  11. Mine are MS66 and much better looking than that one. I went with MS65 (because it is NGC). TC
     
  12. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    shouldn't be higher than a 64 in my eyes.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Shouldn't be in a slab at all, that coin is damaged. And I can't wait to hear the explanation of why it is not damaged :rolleyes:
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Okay - I relunctantly voted and yes I guessed at this puppy. I think I agree with Doug on this one. The first coin you have posted that I really did not like. Not because of the year but because of all the scrapes and spotting. I think you need to upgrade this one. :)
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    HAHAHAHAHA....nothing like an ultra modern to screw up everone. People are likely going to be surprized by this grade. Like I've said many times before....LUSTER LUSTER LUSTER....TPG's generally ignore everything else if the coin shines. Also, since 2009, the TPG's are putting a LOT of weight on black water spots. A coin can have dings all over the place, but if there's almost no water spots they give it a 67. I have several graded that way.

    66 but I wouldn't be shocked if it was a 67+.
     
  16. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I rushed too much or I would not have put this one in. The only part of an explanation you are going to get is that it is not post mint.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well I'll tell ya what Thad - if they are ignoring damage like that, and you are ignoring damage like that - then I don't have any hope for either of you. And I don't care how much luster it has.

    And no, I'm not gona be surprised by anything and no I am not being fooled by anything. That coin is damaged 8 ways from Sunday.
     
  19. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    So correct(about the modern part) - sounds like this will be another ouchie on my record. :)
     
  20. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I certainly do not grade that way Doug. Hits are my number one criteria, end of story. I start at 70 and countdown the grade based on the number and severity of hits, then I consider spotting, luster and strike and reduce accordingly. On this coin my personal grade is around 63/64.

    The "damage" your counting (I think) is a classic phenomenon of modern cents. When the die is partially filled and the design is not fully brought-up, you see those flat areas on the device high points. Most often in Zincolns its around the top of the head in the hair. They are usually very scratchy looking because the planchet has not been fully coined and details are lost. For some reason in 2009 the Denver issues really showed this effect. Most notably around the entire rim on the obverse, you see a like "staring" pattern on most of the coins.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I cannot prove it, but I also suspect that what you are seeing came from the planchet. If you follow the lines on the bust going to your left, there are more lines just as the rim affects start. I can only conclude that those lines were on the planchet to begin with and have just not been pressed out during the minting. How about a guess that the gap was not properly set during the minting process resulting in the planchet not being squeezed enough to press everything out?

    As for grading, I more or less agree with Thad. However, the number is not so important as whether or not I like it. In this case, I will likely replace it when the prices settle in.
     
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