Guess the grade--1922 Peace Dollar

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lehigh96, Dec 25, 2008.

  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Guess the grade of this 1922 Peace Dollar assigned by the TPG. Merry X-MAS and have some fun with a colorful holiday coin. No poll on this one guys, just your gut feelings.

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  3. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    If I was grading this coin I would body bag it for artificial toning.
     
  4. skrilla

    skrilla That Guy

    Au58 (jaw), but probably graded MS65/66.

    Could you post the other pictures so I don't have to cheat :p

    I bet this toning looks ugly in hand.
     
  5. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I would say that's artificial toning by the obverse the reverse is questionable still I won't give it a grade I do think is not natural toning,

    Jazzcoins Joe
     
  6. skrilla

    skrilla That Guy

    It's from heritage so it's slabbed. May have been post slabbed AT. Just guess how bad they messed up :headbang:

    BTW is this a VAM? Die gouge by the eye and on the reverse ray under the 1st L in Dollar. (sorry if they aren't gouges lol)
     
  7. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    Merry X-mas! Sorry, that Peace Dollar got some bad eggnog.

    And I know there will be later posts saying "fantastic toning'. That's the danger of spending pesos on this kind of coin - it' 99.9% subjective.

    Grade is really a non-element here since my eye can't get past the stains.

    Sorry. My gut feeling.
     
  8. skrilla

    skrilla That Guy

    It could always be ANACS. MS60 details Artificially toned? That is a possibility. I'm still going with my 1st post.
     
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  10. skrilla

    skrilla That Guy

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  11. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    looks like it was heated...

    as for the grade, no idea! Im not too great with grading peace dollars.
     
  12. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    Looks like a 62 or 63 to me, with AT on it.

    Watch and it's holdered at 65*
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I can't say anything about the toning but otherwise that seems to be a 64. The strike is not good enough IMO to be more than that.

    Ruben
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

  15. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP

    I'm going to say MS-63. The eye appeal, lack of original luster (although there is some left) and contact marks and scratches in key focal areas should have brought it down. It should not be above a 63.
     
  16. SCNuss

    SCNuss Senior Member

    I'm not that good on grading, but I'd guess AU-55. I thought I saw a slight flat spot on the hair, but I do know that Peace dollars frequently have weak strikes. The toning doesn't look natural, and the Mint luster just isn't there.
     
  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I have seen this one before and it was a MS-64Star if it the same Lee.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fair enough - now why ?
     
  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I would disagree on the AT call. The toning may be ugly, but plausibly could naturally occur in this way. I also say that toning also does a phenomenal job of hiding things, so grading a toned coin like this from a picture might be nearly impossible to do with any accuracy, well at least for me.

    If pressed, I would say AU-55 because I think the strike is relatively weak, especially for a 1922, and there may be just a hint of wear hiding on the highest points and underneath the toning.

    just my 2¢,

    mikenoodle
     
  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Why not? It looks completely N to me. But, define NT and AT. I don't think anybody can. At least, not in any practical way anybody can utilize.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wasn't saying I agreed with him or disagreed with him - I was asking him for his reasons as to why he thinks it is AT.
     
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