Guess the Assigned Grade 1939-D Mercury Dime (NGC)

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Guess the Assigned Grade

  1. MS64 FB

    5 vote(s)
    18.5%

  2. MS65 FB

    13 vote(s)
    48.1%

  3. MS66 FB

    6 vote(s)
    22.2%

  4. MS67 FB

    1 vote(s)
    3.7%

  5. Other

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Guess the assigned grade of the 1939-D Mercury Dime shown below and cast your vote in the assigned poll.

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    As always, comments and discussion welcome. If you choose a grade other than listed in the poll, please post your grade and the reason for that grade.
     
    Lehigh96, Nov 27, 2013
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  3. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    MS65 FB. Even from the small pictures, I can see the full rounded and split center bands! The luster looks great with no breaks. The reason I gave it a 65 and not higher is the mark across the cheek. It's just too distracting for a higher grade IMO. Again, without larger pictures, I might be missing something.

    A beautiful coin.
     
    JPeace$, Nov 27, 2013
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  4. chridular

    chridular Member

    I don't think I can add much more to what jpcienkus stated above. MS65 FB Great looking coin!
     
    chridular, Nov 27, 2013
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd hate to hazard a guess as to what they said. As for me, I think everybody can guess what I'd say.

    When it comes to grading, size matters. The smaller the coin the more that marks and their locations count against the grade. So even ignoring the luster breaks on the neck and central areas of the hair and wing edge and reverse fields, those sizable marks on the cheek bone jump out and slap you in the face. Add to that the subdued luster and what appears to be the remains of toning that was dipped away and is now an unsightly distraction, there's no way that coin should be graded a gem.

    Other than the large marks on the cheek the coin is relatively clean with only a handful of other small contact marks. So I think it likely that the luster breaks were caused by the previous toning and subsequent dipping, and not light wear.

    Just how I see it, and can't see it any other way.
     
    GDJMSP, Nov 27, 2013
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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    That scar on the cheek bothers me. '64FB
     
    green18, Nov 27, 2013
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  7. aubade21

    aubade21 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin! I'll guess MS66 FB
     
    aubade21, Nov 27, 2013
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    63 FB
     
    ToughCOINS, Nov 27, 2013
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  9. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    I thought ms 65 FB
     
    Tater, Nov 27, 2013
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  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I don't doubt that the coin was dipped but in hand the luster was not significantly impacted in a negative way. However, I think you have made a pretty good case for why the coin should be graded MS64FB. Personally, I grade it MS65FB but that is because you and I employ different grading standards.

    I will reveal the grade of the coin after Thanksgiving. Happy Turkey day everybody.
     
    Lehigh96, Nov 27, 2013
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  11. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Like any other gem level coin, it comes down to luster and eye appeal moving from 65-66-67. That's hard to pick up from a picture.
     
    BadThad, Nov 27, 2013
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  12. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Honestly I can't see it any higher than 65. Yes the bands are full but there is a break in the luster on the obverse and the reverse. the mark on the cheek actually draws the eye to it, as does the mark over the M in Dime. Adding the small marks of the cross bands of the fasces and 65 looks like tops for this, although I would call it a pretty nice coin for a 39-D
     
    bqcoins, Nov 27, 2013
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  13. TypicalCreepahx

    TypicalCreepahx Hello There! ( ͡⚆ ͜ʖ ͡⚆)

    Ms66 FB !
     
    TypicalCreepahx, Nov 28, 2013
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  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I think the tpgs gave her a 64-FB . Though a 65 wouldn't surprise me . Nice coin Paul .
     
    rzage, Nov 28, 2013
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  15. Soft Coins

    Soft Coins Member

    Who knows? It could be graded anywhere from mid-grade MS FB to higher.
     
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  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Needless to say, I disagreed with the assigned grade.

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    Lehigh96, Nov 28, 2013
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  17. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Interesting, how does one go about cleaning one side of the coin improperly without using a mechanical means. I assume they are talking about the smudge, luster break on the neck there. huh.
     
    bqcoins, Nov 28, 2013
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  18. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    And between the L I and above the AW
     
    KoinJester, Nov 28, 2013
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  19. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Strange...
     
    geekpryde, Nov 28, 2013
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  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I have a Bust half that was in a slab , "reverse improperly cleaned" I couldn't see it either as it had decent cartwheel luster for an 1825 coin .
     
    rzage, Nov 28, 2013
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  21. chridular

    chridular Member

    Well, I must say... I'm disappointed. Based on the pics I thought it looked, to me, like it was pretty good to grade.
     
    chridular, Nov 29, 2013
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