GTG x 2: 3C & H10C

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Hello all! All opinions welcome! Thank you!

    1865 3C (two pics included of reverse...3rd picture shows what I believe is a die clash, not a scratch, on the reverse of the 3 cent coin):

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    1858 H10C:

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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    63 but but 58 would not shock me
    VF details scratched.
     
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  4. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I'm really digging that clash on the 3 cent piece! :)
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    The 3 cent nickel 3rd image shows the profile of the obv. Liberty face.
    Not a scratch . These are very common clashes on this series . I'll go 63 on that coin. That coin also shows a clash on the obv. Under Liberty's chin it's the Roman numeral l from the reverse . Also very common to find the clash here on this series .
    As for the H-10 I'm between a xf. And a low Au. From your images.
     
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  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm a little more optimistic than Paddy about the H10C - I expect more shield wear visible for XF and am at AU55 for it - but otherwise in complete agreement
     
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  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    MS63 for the 3 cent and VF30 on the half dime. Not much if any luster left. The inside of the obverse stars are flat and the reverse leaves are missing 3/4 of their detail.
     
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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1865 III Obv. Clash of III Obv.-crop.jpg 1865 Obv.Clash III Rev.-crop.jpg
     
  9. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    58 & 50
    Final answer
     
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  10. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    64 and 58
     
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  11. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    58 on that 3 center . Love that die clash too .
    53 .
     
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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    @ddddd could you post a better image of the obv. 3 cent piece? Maybe it's the image but what are the shadows next to the 8 and 5 in the date?
     
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  13. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I think it's the photo. Are these any better:
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    You are probably correct on the shadows being from the plastic or photo. If you look at the specimen I posted there is clashes in the date from the ribbon on the wreath on the reverse . Thanks for taking the effort to honor my request.
    These two are nice looking coins both series I myself collect. Some nice clashes on the H-10 also obv.
     
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  15. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm in for MS63 on the 3 cent and the H10c I'd say AU50 on it.
     
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  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Well here are the answers....personally, I think the 3 cent coin could go higher, but I'm keeping it in the holder as is. The H10C likely has some damage. Maybe I'll add it in to an Anacs submission if I decide to take up one of those special offers they run.

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  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Personally I would leave both in the holders they are in. The 3 cent piece is at least a grade higher. As for the H-10 I see clashes if that's what they are calling damage ,however I not having the coin in hand from your images it's hard to say.

    Now that I enlarged the obv. Image on the H 10 I see the damage on her legs.
    At first all I saw was the clashes .
     
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Pretty cool that this GTG half dime got between VF and high AU guesses, lol.
     
  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well I will have to say the images were not that great to make a call unless you enlarged them. That tends to distort them. I didn't see the scratches on her knees until this morning when I did enlarge the image.
    If you were judging the coin from the image and using the high points ie Liberty and the shield then yes it looked like a Au coin on the obv. But even with the images as they were you could see the flatness of the leaves on the wreath .
    As a collector of H-10 's I would buy this specimen as I kind of like the color as well as its clashes .
    I personally don't think it would get graded without a detailed grade.
    That said there's plenty of meat on the bone to leave it as is in the PCI holder. This date is also a common date with the mintage . So it's not like you couldn't find another specimen without the damage .
    Both coins are nice examples , that I would leave as is in their slabs.
     
  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    That's the PCI holder from their best years; I believe their opinion of the surfaces in these holders. Still think it's undergraded, though. :)
     
  21. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Nice Early Anacs holder!
    @Insider was just touting how plenty O dealers have gotten straight grades outta the PCI red holders..... Wonder what his colorful commentation would be for this one....
    If he hasn't been banned since he commented last :troll:
     
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