GTG- Silver Dollar

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MS details. Cleaned. I see striations that I don’t think are die polish, but a good, old fashioned light polishing.

 

Thanks for sharing this beautiful,rare coin with us,,,,AU-58+

 

Always tuff to GTG on these as hard to assess luster unless someone posts a gif. I see some mint frost on the rev rims, and areas of dark gray look like strike weakness to me. I see a few hairlines, maybe an old wipe but market acceptable? All of which leads me to guess MS62.

 

What company graded it?

 

I agree looks Au-58 details but they may be more likely to grade these straight like they do trade dollars so I can see straight graded too

 

A nice 1857 Die Marriage OC-2, R-3, Obverse 1 and Reverse B. Both dies are Die State 1 which preceded a die polishing. I have attached some annotated closeups of some of the pickup points.

As to condition, the coin has been cleaned moderately. There are numerous hairlines on both obverse and reverse and it has almost assuredly been dipped. These coins often are given considerable leeway for problems by the TPGs and are deemed market-acceptable. The 1857 is moderately hard to come by particularly in circulated grades.

It is a weak strike on both sides which is common for this issue. But, there is evidence of wear at numerous locations so IMO this is a circulated coin. I gauge it around a sharpness AU-55 but it's probably in an AU-53 holder due to cleaning and weak strike.

I can't see a circumstance where this coin would be a slider.

 

Top 2; MS60 - MS62 either way. Just a guess, in today's TPG I believe it would grade higher. Very nice coin I like it, thanks for sharing.

 

Don't know them enough to venture a guess, however she's a Peach!

 

Agree with DETAILS CLEANED...such a beauty!

 

@Steve Shupe a really nice coin, and excellent photography allowing the zooming-in to see the strike and surface condition. As you stated, this year (and the series in general) is often weakly struck and that is evident on your coin. Also, as is often seen, there was a slight tilting on the Obverse Die which gives the impression of appreciable wear on some of the Design High Points; the Design High Points on the Liberty Seated Dollar are the Breasts and Right knee on the Obverse, and the Eagle's Wing Tops and Neck above the Breast, and the Talons on the Reverse.

I don't see any appreciable wear on the Design High Points on the Obverse, or on the Left Top Wing and Left Talon (Eagle's Left).

I do see some parallel Hairlines in the Fields on both sides and on Liberty, and some different reflectivity in some areas, so I do believe that there was an attempt at a cleaning a long time ago (as opposed to mishandling).

This coin, even in low grades (ex; PCGS G-4 is $1K) is expensive. Based upon my observation, I think that it graded AU-58 Details, Cleaning.

 

This is my 1857 graded AU 58.

 

MS64

 

After spending more time looking at the surfaces what we're seeing isn't die polish lines. You can tell by following the lines in the fields going over the devices. When lines like those go over the devises it's a sign of cleaning. I would grade it AU Details. It's a nice dollar but I doubt it would straight grade. It possible it could straight grade depending how the coin looks in hand. If it straight graded the grading services would likely lower the grade.

 

AU Details

 

Nice, and the moderate scratches on the eagle...assuming not on the holder...did not hold it back from a straight grade as they indeed should not have, and as the hairlines on the OPs should not hold it back from a straight grade as well. Will say AU58, maybe PL.

 

"AU64." But me liking it very, very much. Me seeing the funny hairlines, too, as me got good eyesight. Meaning, it slid against something or other, namely because (1) the lines look too uniform for a rubbing, and (2) are through the devices, suggesting they're not die polishing. Detail it for those? They could do it, because it didn't come from the die.

 

the mirror fields do show some hairlines from being wiped. And yes, there are die scratch lines as well. I can fully see why some picked AU. Sometimes the AU/MS62 are so close... With the coin in hand it looks to be a low MS to me. This coin was bought from Bowers & Merena when they were in business. Great guesses everyone!

 

Thought I was a little to high and I can see it as a 62 fair grade,not familiar with this series.

 

Guessing Au 56