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  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Just picked this beauty up. Yes, it looks like it has a scratch, but yes, it straight graded. In the seller pics you cannot even see the scratch, so my guess is it is not really visible to the naked eye. These Trueview pics show EVERYTHING, including the beautiful color! Any guesses on the grade?
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  3. Coinlover67

    Coinlover67 Well-Known Member

    66?

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  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    ms62
     
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  5. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    MS63? I wonder if her face had an unfortunate date with a staple... Pretty toning though!
     
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  6. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    That would be my guess. I am a little surprised they straight graded it, which maybe makes me think in hand it is not that bad.
     
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  7. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    63.
     
    Santinidollar, Sep 5, 2016
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  8. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm at 63 as well.

    You have not seen it in hand yet? Did the seller submit it for you?
     
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  9. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I have not seen it in hand yet. I have seen the seller pics, and looked up the trueview pics since it was already graded in a secure holder. I could not see any scratch in their pictures. Honestly, even if I can see a light scratch, I think I did ok price wise with the overall look of the coin.
     
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  10. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    Gotcha.. I hope it's just accentuated by the light. You should know soon enough. Congrat's on another beauty..
     
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  11. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    MS63
     
    Omegaraptor, Sep 6, 2016
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  12. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Tuffy. I'll go against the grain and say 58
     
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  13. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Given that they straight graded it, I'm seeing a 65 that got dinged to 64 for the scratch. Final answer: 64.
     
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  14. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I'm feeling MS62 - scratch on a high focal area is enough for a two point drop from a technical MS64 otherwise.
     
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  15. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    58 if straight graded
     
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  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Au58
     
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  17. WLH22

    WLH22 Well-Known Member

    AU58 for me
     
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  18. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Congrats to those who said AU58!! It appears VERY nice for the grade (to me), other than the scratch. I wonder how much that effected grading?
     
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  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    :shame:

    The scratch I'm guessing is light and didn't effect the outcome really. Its the slight rub above the ear, the chin, the lower neck line and the eagles neck and leg feathers mixed with the few scattered marks that tell of slight circulation rather than bag hits
     
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  20. Jason Hoffpauir

    Jason Hoffpauir Avid Coin Collector

    MS-62/63
     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    In this case, it didn't affect it at all. A scratch, in and of itself, cannot drop a grade from MS to AU. A scratch is either judged severe enough to make the coin ungradeable or it isn't severe enough to do that.

    Yes, a scratch can lower an MS grade, like from a 64 to 63, or a 65 to a 64. But even for the TPGs the only thing that differentiates an AU from an MS is wear. Contact marks, scratches, hairlines - none of that stuff can ever drop a coin from MS to AU. The one and only thing that can do that is wear.
     
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