GTG Matte Proof Lincoln #4

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ldhair, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    This is all about what you would grade the coin. I'll be posting 10 different Matte Proofs over the next week or two. They are all in early holders from the following services.
    NGC, PCGS, ANACS and PCI.

    I took these to the last Fun Show with two things in mind. I had Todd image them and was going to crack them all and hand them to PCGS for grading. After talking with a few friends at the show, I decided to wait on messing with a change in holder.

    Please let me know what you think about the image sizes. I had a hard time deciding what size was best for most. All opinions are welcome. Have fun.

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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Let me be the first to say it's ugly. No way around that.:bigtears:
     
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  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    63 That one actually looks pretty clean to me, but eye appeal also counts as does color variance.
     
  5. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    I'm stumped. I have to admit, the spot in front of Lincoln's nose and mouth really kill the coin for me, more so than the fingerprint.
    62? 63?
     
  6. robec

    robec Junior Member

  7. gijoe76

    gijoe76 A Penny Saved is a Penny earned

    If the grade was based on just the strike itself I would give it a 65BN. Not sure how much the obverse spot affects the overall grade
     
  8. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

  9. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Personally, 63 BN, but I agree with @gijoe76. I wouldn't be surprised if it's in a higher grade holder due to toning over time, or because the TPG didn't weight the toning as high as some of us seem to be doing.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Is that Abe's fingerprint?
     
  11. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    I'll go 64 BN. It's probably less noticeable in hand.
     
  12. gijoe76

    gijoe76 A Penny Saved is a Penny earned

    After rereading your post I might actually go with a PCI 66 or 67 BN
     
  13. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    From some angles it's really pretty but it is what it is. I don't remember it having the print when I bought it. It's been to long. I agree with 62 only because the reverse helped a bit.

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  15. coindudeonebay

    coindudeonebay SMS Guru

    I stand with Bob on this one, I say 63BN. Maybe when you submitted it the fingerprint wasn't evident. Some of those old green labels did cause a lot of toning and it's possible that the label interacted with the oils from the fingerprint to turn the coin into what it is today.
     
  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Funky toning and a lot of marks and scratches on obverse my call was pr 62 bn
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That fingerprint kills it. I was going to guess 63BN, but I'd only pay a 62 price.
     
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