GTG Indian Head Quarter Eagle & Half Eagle

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dima, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. Dima

    Dima Member

    Following up on my few recent guess-the-grade threads, I couldn't decide which coin to post next, so figured I'd double up. For your consideration are a 1928 quarter eagle and 1912 half eagle, both PCGS --

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  3. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    I have never really been able to grade these things, but I say AU58 and MS63
     
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  4. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Au 58 and Au 50
     
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  5. CommemHalfScrub

    CommemHalfScrub Active Member

    65 and 64 but I suck at these
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    MS details, and AU53
     
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  7. Sunflower_Coins

    Sunflower_Coins Importer and Exporter

    No good on gold, but I'll give it a shot:

    1928: AU58-is that a planchet flaw on the eagle's shoulder?

    1912: AU50
     
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Both AU-53.
     
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  9. Dima

    Dima Member

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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’m really surprised on the second with all the circulation contact marks and high point rub. The first is a clear slider
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I agree, but the $5 Indian is actually a very scarce coin in strict Mint State, even for the common dates. The reason is the design, with the fields as the highest part of the coin, is very prone to picking up marks and circulation friction. The Indian's cheekbone and the top of the eagle's wing also picked up a rub very easily.

    It seems like the grading services have to "produce" some Mint State examples of these coins given that the actual Mint State pieces are tough to find. When I was young collector in the 1960s, the $5 Indian was the one coin in the eight piece gold type set I found to be the most difficult to find in Uncirculated. As it is now, coins were called "Uncirculated" when they were not.
     
  12. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    They both look Unc. but the 2 1/2 looks like a 64, but if that's a gouge on the rev. below TRUST, than a 61
     
  13. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Nice strike on the 28!
     
  14. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Is the Indians cheek the highest point? Beautiful coins
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    That and the top of the eagle's wing are the first places that get a rub. It does not take much for it to happen.

    The incuse design seemed like a good idea at the time, but it wasn't.
     
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  17. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    I just checked mine and my 2 1/2 is mint and I can really tell the difference by looking at the wing
     
  18. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    I think they were very generous with the grades. the 2 1/2 is scratched on the top of the eagle's wing.
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    To me, both look like high grade AU coins—55 or 58. But, PCGS hath spake. ;)
     
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