GTG 1944-D Jefferson Nickel (NGC) #2

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Guess the Assigned Grade (NGC)

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-63

  3. MS64

  4. MS65

  5. MS66

  6. MS67

  7. Other (Please Explain in Comments)

  8. 5FS (Five Full Steps)

  9. NOT FS (Please explain in Comments)

  10. + Grade

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Please guess the grade of the 1944-D Jefferson Nickel shown below. I have attached a poll for you to cast your vote and you may select up to 3 different things: the numerical grade, Full Steps or not, and the + grade.


    As always, comments welcome, and please remember to vote in the poll.
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 66 5FS ....lustrous and fairly clean...just snuck by as 5fs (I'm guessing the mark isn't significant enough to disrupt the steps)
  5. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

  6. coinup

    coinup Junior Member

    That's nice!
  7. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    64+not FS...I didn't use your formula of +1...just can't/don't see it as FS across part of the bottom step.
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  8. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    MS66 FS
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  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    LOL, it isn't my formula, that is the standard that both NGC and PCGS use to determine five full steps.

    So for the purposes of these threads, when guessing what the TPG will grade the coin, you kinda have to use their standard, unless you want to be wrong.

    Don't feel bad though, NGC actually agreed with you for a long time. From their inception in 1987 to 2003, NGC required every Jefferson Nickel to have 6 full steps in order to qualify for the FS designation. In 2003, they finally relented, and created two separate designations, 5FS & 6FS. So if you ever see an NGC Jefferson Nickel with just an FS designation with no number in front, that means the coin has 6 full steps. For example:

  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I can't believe they gave that 67 with the cuts on the reverse. It's a wonderful coin, I'm just saying...
  11. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Active Member

  12. coinup

    coinup Junior Member

    Wondering when we will see 1 full step varieties....hmmm....o_O
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  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    That photo isn’t the reveal, I was just showing an example of an NGC slab with FS designation. That coin was a 1940, the subject of the thread is a 1944-D.
  14. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I guess the little nicks and scratch across the columns? on the reverse, and whatever that is on his jaw below the ear kept it to
    MS66 FS
    Lovely looking coin, great luster
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

  16. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    66 NFS bottom 2 steps are not fully struck
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I went with 66 5FS. I like it.
  19. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

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  21. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    OK, so let's have it...or did I miss it somewhere in all of that...? I'll keep looking. Also, understood from your previous explanation that +1 was PCGS/NGC "formula" but since I didn't use it this time but recalled it was conveyed by/from you before, I indicated "your" in a casual format. Oh, yeah, and never saw an answer to what IS an official "step" to be counted...the dark/recessed (concave) lines or the nickel-color/convex lines, of which one is, or may be, the foundation that the columns rest on...? Or is that...any of this...also undecided and up for interpretation among TPGs, further confounding what is/isn't FS...??? It would be so easy if they'd all just get together and agree on a single standard and its how our congress does business (not). Thx.
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