GTG 1925 Peace Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dima, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. Dima

    Dima Member

    Recently picked up from Heritage; photos are theirs. I feel the coin is actually quite overgraded by PCGS. I'm hoping once the coin arrives perhaps a good amount of the marks are on the holder versus the coin itself; however, it really seems to be dinged up quite a bit. I'd love to hear some guesses and rationales. If anybody is curious: the certification number is only 7 digits long signifying it's "older."

    1925 obv - Copy.jpg
    1925 rev.jpg

    Edit: I will admit - in this case, I purchased the label slightly more than the coin. The "value" of this coin is significantly higher than what I paid. Including buyer's premium, I paid $1 under greysheet.
     
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  3. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    I am going to guess MS62 due to how baggy the fields appear to be.
     
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  4. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    64
    Hazy toning but I don't mind it.
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Au58/ms60 lack luster and dipped
     
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  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    MS65

    Heritage photos are notorious for subduing luster and the coin will almost always be more lustrous in hand. The focal areas are very clean except the hit on the nose and you stated the coin was overgraded so I’m definitely erring on the high side.

    PS: The fact that the slab has the series and coin numbers on it dates it.
     
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  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    25's peace dollars do lack luster 20200618_174026.jpg 20200618_174038.jpg 20200618_174052.jpg 20200618_174100.jpg
     
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  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    No we need to find a TPG who know how to grade! And will add this those 2 specimens were in my collection years before you were born....so no i dont need a better dealer.
     
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  10. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    MS-64
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'm at AU-58. No luster and the hair is worn. To me it appears those small marks the W G in IN GOD WE are Damage. I can see metal on both sides of the area.

    You have a coin with an error label. There's no grade and part of the number is missing. Lol
     
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  12. Dima

    Dima Member

    So, I tend to agree with most of you folks - I'm thinking this coin is ~MS63 based on plethora of dings; however, PCGS gave it a much, much higher grade...

    1925 obv.jpg

    I'm shocked it's graded so high. Can anybody explain why this coin could've possibly received such an inflated, high grade?
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I must say here is the" queen mother" of why you buy the coin not the slab.
    And the poster child of how PCGS missed this by a country mile.
    And no way pay 66 money on a 60 +/- coin.
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Frankly, my eye says Peace dollars are graded all over the place, often with a lack of anything resembling consistency. Your eyeball is your best friend with this series.
     
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  15. Dima

    Dima Member

    I'm curious to see what this coin looks like in-hand once it arrives. Not disappointed with the purchase - it bumps my 20th Century Type registry set up to rank 30 :)
     
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  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I already did. The coin has high MS64 or low end MS65 surfaces. If the luster is off the charts, which it very well could be, I can see the coin getting bumped to at least MS65 and possibly a low end MS66 like it is.
     
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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I did not get the chance, as I was late to the party. I would have said 65, as the surfaces are very clean, but the pictures do not show that much luster to get a 66 grade. I guess the luster is better than pictured.
     
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  18. Dima

    Dima Member

    Finally got this coin yesterday. In hand, it looks significantly better than the pictures. There are certainly dings - which the photos pointed out - but they're not nearly as prominent as the photos would suggest.

    The luster is crazy; perfect cartwheel on both obverse and reverse without any breaks. And the texture of the coin looks almost ...creamy? The patina on the fields looks "original," akin to a modern silver dollar commemorative.
     
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  19. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I see a less than perfect planchet, with a good strike, that has a couple of displeasing dings. For me, it would be a low MS.
     
  20. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    So she got the PCGS luster bump.
     
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