GTG 1903 Morgan

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  1. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    This isn't my coin. I'm interested in it simply for the offset dies and the price is reasonable at sub $60. Before I take the plunge since it's still $$ I'll ask the experts your opinions on what you think.

    My guess is AU53 Details cleaned and maybe environmental damage rim dings.
    The breast feathers still look good but something tells me someone tried to clean the face up and didn't do a good job.
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'd say your assessment is about right. I'd say it's got about AU55 detail, and I'd call the rim ding simply "damage" instead of "environmental damage" (env. damage generally implies corrosion).
     
  4. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    Do you think the error makes it worth $60 obo in its current state or should I pass?
     
  5. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Considering you can get a problem-free AU55 for around $50 on eBay, I'd pass. I don't know much about pricing errors, but this misaligned die seems rather minor and not very premium-worthy. It's definitely not as cool as the 1921 with the cracked planchet. :)
     
  6. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    It has a railroad edge. I offered $50. I'll see what they say when I wake up.
     
  7. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    I'll share that pm after others can play the guessing game too.
     
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It is raw, how can we Guess the Grade [GTG]?
     
  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    58 slider but looks overly dipped and vigorously wiped. This is what can happen when you dip a coin that's too dark and go overboard
     
  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    That's not a Railroad Rim. The term is used to describe a Partial Collar strike where the collar does not cover the whole rim, making the rim resemble the wheel of a railroad car. This is a minor thing, not worth a premium.

    Have a look at Coop's images here:

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-this-a-railroad-rim.127503/
     
  11. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    If i was buying it, i would buy it simply for the rim. Its not a railroad rim but i like it regardless
     
  12. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Is there any reeding impressions on the obv at about 2 o'clock? Can't tell from the pic.....could be a VAM 1C
     
  13. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    Easy, you guess what you think it is.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    "GTG" means "Give The Grade" here. :)
     
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  15. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    Ohhh... I thought it was guess. I've been incorrectly playing the wrong game.:sorry:
     
  16. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    It's only "guess" if it's already certified. Kinda hard to guess a grade when there isn't one assigned. :p (Ya, ya, I know, we could guess what you graded it, but that's not quite as fun.)
     
  17. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    My idea is to use the skills learned either on here or in person to judge the coin based on the photos provided and come up with a grade. Buy the coin, not the number. This gives people a way to practice their grading skills.

    I'll end up submitting it after I attempt to do some damage control. Once the coin comes back people can see how close or far they are. IMO it's useful. New members may find it useful too.
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The "usefulness" of guessing TPG grades is predicated on the assumption that they grade correctly every time. Nothing could be further from the truth. :)
     
  19. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    AU, cleaned. The error is not worth a premium. I'd pass.
     
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