GTG 1893-O Morgan Dollar

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Guess the grade of this 1893-O Morgan

  1. AU58

  2. MS60

  3. MS61

  4. MS62

  5. Details - Cleaned

  6. Counterfeit

  7. Altered Surfaces

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  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    This 1893-O Morgan Dollar was submitted to NGC. Can you guess how it returned?

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Breast feathers (reverse) lack definition. Half moon thingo (under States) reverse is a tad distracting......a bit of chatter on the face (obverse) but in no way distracting.

    '64
     
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  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    And I seem to be off base according to the pole.
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's a clash alongside the wreath, nice. Those couple deep cuts really worry me. MS63? Lower than that and they ought to have their license confiscated.
     
  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Hey wait! We don't have any choices for MS63! Then it's MS62, and confiscate their license for six months, that'll teach them.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It looks mushy to me.
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    62

    ...I don't see obvious wear, but plenty of hits/marks in line with a 62 (not quite enough to lower it to a 60 or 61).
     
  9. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I think the coin is legit. The clashed reverse is neat but pretty typical on Morgans. It looks rubbed to me with a dull looking obverse, so I said cleaned.
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    AU58
     
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  11. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I'm at 62. It's an O mint and they are known for mushy stuff.
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's TOO clean!

    Chris
     
  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I would go 58 but I think it got a cleaning details grade
     
  14. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    I think I see a hint of rub on the obverse mainly. As for details??? I have a hard time with that. Haven't most, if not all white Morgans been cleaned at some point?
     
  15. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    It's either been circulated or cleaned, and I don't see a pattern to the scratches that a cleaning would make. Retains nice luster, so I went 58.
     
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  17. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    I got nervous and voted counterfeit.

    :nailbiting:
     
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  18. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    It is definitely circulated. The coin itself is genuine and a quick cursory glance at the mintmark revealed nothing concerning. I would take a closer look in hand.

    Altered surfaces is an infuriating designation because there is no set definition and no consistent practice with it. Unless it has been smoothed or thumbed, I don’t see altered surfaces. The luster looks odd, like it has been dipped. Maybe lightly wiped on the reverse? I see hairlines.

    I voted 58.

    Did you look at the cheek? Or the neck? Or the obverse fields?
     
  19. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

  20. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Let me rephrase that! It's too clean except for the spots where they didn't want to "dip it to death".

    Chris
     
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  21. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

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