GTG 1883 Morgan Dollar- Beautifully Toned

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  1. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    So my amazing wife just surprised me for my birthday with the single best coin in my collection. New PCGS Gold shield. What do you all think?!
    I couldnt get an image without that little glare on the sides sorry.

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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 65
    ...at least in the photo I’m seeing no marks, but I think there are some on the cheek and in the fields if I’m interpreting the photo correctly
    .....and happy birthday! Congrats on a nice coin and a great gift from your wife!
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Happy B Day.
    MS 66
     
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  5. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    @ddddd @Pickin and Grinin im sorry I uploaded a photo where I took contact marks out using photoshop. I have my own personal album of "what if my coin was perfect" I just replaced it with the actual photo. It does absolutely have marks. Again sorry for the confusion.
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    65. The toning is beautiful! Super Birthday present.
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I thought something was a bit funny because I was looking at it and thought it might be as high as 67-68 based on the photo. :wideyed: :)

    I’d revise it to 63 with the updated photo.
     
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  8. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    Lol yea, I was super confused with the 66 and 65 guess until I looked again!
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I am sticking with 65. Nice surfaces under the tone.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am at 64, though I think it depends on how distracting the area infront of the face is.
     
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  11. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

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    Here's a different image.
    I'll post the True view in a bit!
     
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  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I like the 'mediocre photography' label

    Looks like my pictures, but far better
     
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  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Under the toning, the coin is an MS-63 at best with all of the marks on the cheek and in the field. The next question is how many points did PCGS give it for the toning?
     
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  14. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I love the colors, and I’m at 64 on it. What an excellent gift. Happy Birthday!
     
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  15. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I can confirm that no one has guessed the correct grade yet. :D
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I am beginning to think “who gives a flying fig about the grade?” To me, the toning on the obverse is so beautiful, it could be anywhere from 62-65, and who cares? I see the coin’s value in the toning.
     
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  17. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I agree. For me, the grade doesn’t matter much. What counts with this Morgan is its color. Love it.
     
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  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Happy belated Birthday @LuxUnit and what a fantastic gift! The toning is beautiful! Who cares about the grade? :) Just don't forget her birthday!
     
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  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Sorry guys. That is a dangerous assumption to make. Toning can hide a lot of problems, and artificial toning has often been used to make “the sow’s ear into a silk purse.”

    If toning is your thing, then enjoy it, but take some time to look under it to see the marks on the surface.
     
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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The marks are NOT that extreme. That coin looks NT to me, anyway. I have owned many that had that kind of toning, and they were all certified, and market acceptable.
     
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  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If the coin were white, with no toning and full luster, and graded MS-64 or 65, you wouldn’t touch it. Look at her jaw and in the field in front of that area. Plus there are many more other ticks.
     
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