GTG: 1875 20-cent piece

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  1. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    One of my favorites. Grade this one! In a PCGS slab.

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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

  4. CamaroDMD

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    AU Details, cleaned
     
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  5. Kentucky

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    AU Details, cleaned
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I originally thought it was details-cleaned, but the more I look at it, I think it is wear, and a dipping, with retoning. Going to stick with Straight grade AU 50.
     
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  7. ldhair

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  8. CamaroDMD

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    It’s all the hairlines in the fields that worry me. They are running in the same direction. I think it’s been scrubbed.
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Could be. Could just be wear abrasions. Not positive.
     
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  10. CamaroDMD

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    It’s hard to know for sure with photos.
     
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  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Exactly. It doesn’t have that flat look of a cleaned coin. I see wear in the fields, and on the high points of the obverse. It could go either way. Those coins are pretty uncommon nowadays, so I could see a TPG letting it slide.
     
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  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    xf-45, cleaned
     
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  15. CommemHalfScrub

    CommemHalfScrub Active Member

    Looks cleaned and returned. XF-40 details
     
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  16. Santinidollar

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    OK. Here’s the reveal.

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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Surprised the grade was that much lower than our guesses. As I suspected it straight graded, but VF 35? I thought XF-AU made more sense.
     
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  18. CamaroDMD

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    Hmm. I will admit that I’m not an expert in this series but I am surprised.
     
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  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I think that they net graded it. The sharpness grade is EF-AU, but it has been rubbed fairly recently on the high points, especially the rims. In the old days, this would have come back in a body bag or more recently gone into a “details” holder.

    It’s too bad because the coin was a choice, original piece before someone messed with it or put it in the wrong type of storage container.
     
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  20. brokrken

    brokrken Active Member

    This thread reminds me of a GTG I did recently on my 38-D Walking Liberty Half. I think the holders are causing the pictures to give a cleaned look to the coin, especially if you have direct light on the coin, as it looks in this pic. It's like the light projects small scratches on the holder onto the coin.
     
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  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    1920 Type 2 Quarter All.jpg I disagree. Look at the circled areas on the coin. They appear to have been disturbed, especially on the rims and in some areas on the design.

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