GTG 1867 Indian Head Cent

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  1. C-B-D

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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    My grade? EF-45 details, scratched.

    TPG grade? AU-53
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    AU details, cleaned
     
  5. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm leaning towards the AU-50 range.
     
  6. ldhair

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  8. carpman98

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  9. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I'm at EF45 not knowing the typical strike quality for this issue and I must say I do enjoy a nice clash. :)
     
  10. iontyre

    iontyre Active Member

    Calling it scratched is kind of extreme. It circulated, the surfaces are not going to be pristine! EF-45, but TPG will probably go AU-50.
     
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  11. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I was a bit shocked by this one. I had it at AU50 but PCGS graded it XF40.
     
  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Net grade due to the scratches?
     
  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    No idea. Those are normal circulation marks to my eye. XF40 doesn't make much sense.
     
  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Maybe I was fooled by an absolutely HAMMERED strike. Look at those rims!
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2018
  16. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I was seeing a higher XF-45, but not quite a 50 before seeing the grade. 40 seems pretty low to me.
     
  17. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    As liberal as the services have been in recent years, I am surprised it didn't make it in an AU holder. How long ago was this graded?
     
  18. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    I’m not sure where I read it, but I recall the ribbon being clearly distinct from the lower curl was one key indicator some look to for XF in IHC’s. This one barely squeaks that out despite minimal wear elsewhere (testament to the strong strike?)- that plus the nicks on and around the portrait could take it out of 45 in the eye of the TPG beholder.

    To me, zooming the coin out to actual size on my phone it looks like it would present in hand at 45. Sweet clashes.
     
  19. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    This week!
     
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  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah i can see 40.
     
  21. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm a little late to this thread, but I was going to say 40 myself. The wear on her hair and cheek is too much for an AU. There is no luster showing in your pictures (there may be some in hand), but luster is required for an AU, and there has to be at least some for a 45. I'm guessing between that and the small scratches, it got bumped down to a 40. I wouldn't buy it because the scratches would bother me, but it is overall an attractive coin.
     
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