GTG - 1828 Capped Bust Half

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Certified by NGC and CAC approved.

    This is not my coin, but I think it is worthy of discussion.

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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    And before anyone complains, I realize that the coin is actually an 1829.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It should be a 58
     
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  5. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

  6. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

  7. royster

    royster southroy

    Great coin thank you for sharing AU-58
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'm thinking more a AU-55
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  10. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    I'm right on the line between AU55 and AU58. Since it's NGC and it CACd, I'm going to say AU55.
     
  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I'd grade it AU55 too, but a higher grade even in the MS range wouldn't surprise me either.


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  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Beautiful AU-58 but a MS grade wouldn't surprise me at all .
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    O-110; the large letters and tight word spacing on the reverse are a dead giveaway. It was also used on 1828 O-118, so we might be gentle with opinion on the twice-used reverse. I'll be quite surprised if it isn't in a Mint State holder.
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Well, the grade is
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    which I think is stupid because "Mint State" means NO WEAR OR CIRCULATION. Dont give me any of the "market grade" crap. If it is worth a premium because of the eye appeal, then someone will pay for it if the buyer has any appreciable knowledge about coins. That's what the coin is "worth." You don't need a grade number, erroneous as it is in this case, to determine what a certain coin is worth. The SOLE JOB of the TPGs is to authenticate and accurately grade the present condition of the coin, not to determine what it is worth. It seems many people don't understand this. It just creates misconceptions among collectors that don't know what they are doing.

    If you can't see the signs of circulation for some reason, I am more than happy to point that out.

    If you feel like overpaying for an overgraded and overpriced AU half dollar (which is quite nice), you can buy it here:

    http://treasureofsignificance.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17620&page=1
     
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  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Yeah that one is an au 63. I just had a. Bust with similar wear and surface come back au 50 from pcgs still bs on that. 55/58 right for either. Cac must have approved it due to the surface appeal. But the luster breaks tell me it's circulated. Tho lightly
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    That shouldn't exist. It is hard enough for the TPGs to consitently give accurate grades; we don't need them trying to determine value as well. It only confuses those that don't have advanced grading skills yet. If a collector knows that a coin is superior for the grade, he/she does not need to have the grade inflated to tell him/her that the coin is superior for the grade.

    It's shameful that the official grading service of the ANA does not follow the ANA grading standards.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    They sure missed that one. The grader must have had on someone else's glasses that day. :)
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I believe you're reading far too much into one single set of images, especially when they're not particularly large, sharp or well-lit.
     
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Dave I think they're saying there's definite rub over the eye and wing tips of the eagle , not much but enough and that's just the reverse .
     
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  20. Browns Fan

    Browns Fan Active Member

    I was thinking the color didn't look right so Unc details. Yes, I'm a novice
     
  21. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Yep - looks like one of those "cabinet friction" graded coins. Looks like a touch of rub on some of the high points. This is one I would ooh over - but never buy at that grade.
     
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